Does the size of an antenna matter?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the relationship between antenna size and its ability to receive and transmit signals, particularly focusing on low and high frequency signals. Participants explore the implications of antenna dimensions on efficiency and resonance, as well as practical experiences with various antenna sizes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a very small antenna can effectively receive or transmit low frequency signals, noting confusion due to previous experiences with antennas of varying sizes.
  • Another participant explains that antenna length is related to the frequency at which it resonates, suggesting that antennas not operating at their resonant frequency may require matching networks for better efficiency.
  • It is asserted by a participant that size does matter for effective antenna performance, indicating that antenna design is complex and often involves compromises.
  • A small antenna may serve as a reasonable receiving antenna but is noted to be inefficient for transmitting high power signals. A specific example of an AM radio receiving antenna is provided.
  • A suggestion is made to use a Vector Network Analyzer (VNA) to analyze the performance of the antennas, indicating a method to explore resonances and input impedance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of small antennas for low frequency signals, with some suggesting limitations in transmission capabilities while others highlight practical experiences that may contradict this. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent to which size impacts performance across different frequencies.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific frequency ranges and practical tools (spectrum analyzers, VNAs) without resolving the underlying assumptions about antenna efficiency and design complexities. There is a lack of consensus on the implications of antenna size for different applications.

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Hello. I have a very small antenna and I was wondering if it can receive and/or transmit low frequency signals (or if it can only receive/transmit high frequencies). Likewise, do I need a very large antenna to receive/transmit low frequencies? I've read somewhere on the internet that the antenna's size scales up the lower down the frequency you go so I wanted to double check what you folks know. I've used a spectrum analyzer with ~8in antennas and they were able to pick up a band between 15MHz-2.7GHz, so that's where my confusion starts with the size. Thanks for reading.
 
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The antenna length tells you the frequency at which the antenna will resonate, and thus be most efficient. Antennas used for frequencies other than their resonant frequency will often use a matching network of some kind to get better efficiency.

The Wikipedia article on dipole antennas does a pretty good job of covering this:

Dipole antenna - Wikipedia
 
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Yes size matters, if you want a good antenna, that is. The study of antenna design is complicated and is mostly about dealing with how to make a good antenna when making a great antenna is too hard or impossible.
As gneill suggested, start with understanding the dipole antenna.
 
Miss Amy said:
a very small antenna and I was wondering if it can receive and/or transmit low frequency signals
A small antenna can be a reasonable receive (Rx) antenna, but will not be able to transmit (Tx) high power efficiently. See the pictures below for an AM radio Rx (ferrite rod) antenna from a portable radio, and the corresponding AM radio Tx antenna...
Miss Amy said:
I've used a spectrum analyzer with ~8in antennas and they were able to pick up a band between 15MHz-2.7GHz,
Do you have access to a Vector Network Analyzer (VNA) and two of your 8" antennas? If so, scan S11 first on one antenna to see what its input impedance looks like. Then scan S21 with antennas on each of the two VNA ports to see how the transfer from one to the other works. You will see the resonances that work well around the resonant lengths of the two antennas.

Rx AM Ferrite Rod Antenna:

http://www.rfcafe.com/references/el...e-am-antenna-readers-digest-stereo-800-xr.jpg

ferrite-am-antenna-readers-digest-stereo-800-xr.jpg
Tx AM Antenna:

http://blogs.dailybreeze.com/history/files/import/33838-P1000132.JPG

33838-P1000132.jpg
 

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