Does Universe Pulse? Theory or Naive Guess?

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of galactic centers joining forces to reverse the expansion of the universe and the concept of black holes containing anti-matter. It also touches on the speculation of black holes as wormholes to parallel universes, but the expert believes it is too speculative and has little value.
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matt010nj
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Is that an official theory or just a light/naive guess (maybe mine)that, if after big bang everything expands, and we can be pretty sure every galactic center is a massive black hole -than galactics are"joining forces" to make it all(universe) back to the point the big bang happens again(and again,and again...)?
 
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matt010nj said:
Is that an official theory or just a light/naive guess (maybe mine)that, if after big bang everything expands, and we can be pretty sure every galactic center is a massive black hole -than galactics are"joining forces" to make it all(universe) back to the point the big bang happens again(and again,and again...)?

This is not likely. The simplest and most straightforward implications of observations is that the expansion of the universe will continue indefinitely. Indeed, the expansion rate appears to be accelerating, and there's no known process to reverse that. The ΛCDM model (which is a kind of benchmark for models of the universe) has the expansion continuing for so unimaginably long that even super massive black holes would eventually "evaporate" away.

This would take a long time... I calculate 4*1094 years for our own Milky Way's supermassive black hole, and trying to convey just how long that is defeats me. If every second of time since the Big Bang was blown out to be the entire age of the universe again, we still would have barely started on the way to durations like this.

And the ΛCDM model continues on even after that, without end.

There are some esoteric ideas for how this could get "turned around" somehow, but gravitation from existing matter can't do it, and putting it all into black holes doesn't change that. Something radically different from what we know of at present would have to be involved... and since it would be unexpected we cannot really expect it. The physics we have at present indicates an unending expansion.

Cheers -- sylas
 
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Thank You sylas
I understand than, that I can't really expect black holes to contain "anti-matter" or neither be build out of one...?
 
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matt010nj said:
Thank You sylas
I understand than, that I can't really expect black holes to contain "anti-matter" or neither be build out of one...?

My understanding is that black holes don't get decomposed into particles, so it makes no difference whether a hole is from compressed matter, or compressed anti-matter. As long as it has mass, the hole is the same.

If you have a black hole, you can increase its mass just as easily by firing lumps of matter into it, or firing lumps of anti-matter into it, or even both at the same time -- but from different directions so you don't have to manage big explosions from matter and anti-matter bumping into each other before crossing the horizon.

The hole doesn't care; it is the ultimate omnivore.

Cheers -- sylas
 
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What is your opinion of black holes as possible wormwholes inbetween parallel universes (and its existence itself) ?
 
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sylas said:
If you have a black hole, you can increase its mass just as easily by firing lumps of matter into it, or firing lumps of anti-matter into it, or even both at the same time -- but from different directions so you don't have to manage big explosions from matter and anti-matter bumping into each other before crossing the horizon.

Exactly, and even if matter-antimatter is undergoing annihilation in a black hole, resulting photons are not going anywhere.
 
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matt010nj said:
What is your opinion of black holes as possible wormwholes inbetween parallel universes (and its existence itself) ?

In my opinion it is too speculative to be worth anything much, and I don't think it could apply even in the most speculative forms for black holes formed by collapse of matter, which is how we get black holes. The terms "parallel universe" and "existence itself" are not well defined.

You can have fun and games with general relativity and strange spacetimes that have weird interconnections, but there's little value in it unless you are one of the few people who understand general relativity well enough to deal with the mathematical descriptions of such things. I'm not at that level.

In any case, even given the possibility of such spacetime oddities, there's no expectation that this is what happens when you throw enough mass together and make a black hole.

Cheers -- sylas
 
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sylas said:
In my opinion anything much, and I don't think it could apply even in the most speculative forms for black holes formed by collapse of matter, which is how we get black holes. The terms "parallel universe" and "existence itself" are not well defined.

You can have fun and games with general relativity and strange spacetimes that have weird interconnections, but there's little value in it unless you are one of the few people who understand general relativity well enough to deal with the mathematical descriptions of such things. I'm not at that level.

In any case, even given the possibility of such spacetime oddities, there's no expectation that this is what happens when you through enough mass together and make a black hole.

Cheers -- sylas

Thanks
I think you are right.It is too speculative to be worth much.I was thinking about possibility of traveling through wormholes to spare time . I've heard about level one parallel universes and probably mixed up some ideas I shouldn't have... :-))
 

Related to Does Universe Pulse? Theory or Naive Guess?

1. Does the universe have a pulse?

There is currently no scientific evidence to support the idea of the universe having a literal pulse. The concept of a pulse typically refers to a rhythmic beating or motion, which does not apply to the vast, constantly expanding and evolving universe.

2. Is the "universe pulse" theory based on scientific research?

No, the idea of the universe having a pulse is not based on any scientific research or evidence. It is considered a philosophical or metaphysical concept rather than a scientific one.

3. What does the "universe pulse" theory propose?

The "universe pulse" theory suggests that the universe has a cyclical pattern of creation and destruction, with periods of expansion and contraction. This theory is not accepted by the scientific community and lacks supporting evidence.

4. Is the "universe pulse" theory considered a naive guess?

The "universe pulse" theory is not considered a naive guess, but rather a philosophical or metaphysical concept. It is not a scientific theory, as it cannot be tested or proven through empirical evidence.

5. Can the "universe pulse" theory be proven or disproven?

As the "universe pulse" theory is not based on scientific evidence, it cannot be proven or disproven in the same way that scientific theories can. It remains a philosophical concept that is open to individual interpretation.

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