Don't know to handle the (ωt) and (t) that appear in the integral

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The discussion revolves around the integral of the function \(\int_{0}^{4} \sin(\omega t) \cdot t^2 \, dt\), where \(\omega\) is treated as a constant. Participants are exploring how to handle the variable \(t\) in conjunction with \(\omega\) within the integral.

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  • Participants discuss the integration of the function and the implications of using different variables. There are attempts to clarify the integration variable and the role of \(\omega\) as a constant. Some suggest using substitutions to simplify the integral, while others question the importance of clearly defining the variable of integration.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering various substitution methods and clarifications regarding the integration variable. There is no explicit consensus on the final approach, but several productive suggestions have been made regarding variable substitution.

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Participants note the importance of correctly identifying the variable of integration and express concerns about the physical interpretation of the results obtained from the integral. There is also mention of using integral tables for reference.

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Homework Statement


I have the integral:
[tex]\int_{0}^{4} \sin(\omega t)\cdot t^2[/tex]

Homework Equations


I know from integrals tables that:
[tex]\int x^2 \sin x=2x\sin x-(x^2-2)\cos x[/tex]
But i don't know to handle the (ωt) and (t) that appear in the integral

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Karol said:

Homework Statement


I have the integral:
[tex]\int_{0}^{4} \sin(\omega t)\cdot t^2[/tex]

Very simple: $$

\int_{0}^{4} \sin(\omega t)\cdot t^2 d \omega = t^2 \int_0^4 \sin (\omega t) d \omega


= t^2 \left[ \frac {-\cos (\omega t)} {t} \right]_0^4 = t (1 - \cos 4t)
$$
 
Sorry, i didn't mention it's not dω, but dt, the variant is the time, the ω is a constant
 
Hint: Write [itex]t^2= \frac{1}{\omega^2}(\omega t)^2[/itex].
 
Karol said:
Sorry, i didn't mention it's not dω, but dt, the variant is the time, the ω is a constant

Do you see why it is important to append dx to the integrand? Without this, no one can be sure what variable is being integrated.
 
So, i use [itex]t^2= \frac{1}{\omega^2}(\omega t)^2[/itex], and then i define a new variable x=ωt and then dx=ωdt, right?
 
That should work.
 
Simplest is to use the substitution [itex]y= \omega t[/itex] so that [itex]dy= \omega dt[/itex], [itex]dt= dy/omega[/itex] and [itex]t= y/\omega[/itex]
 
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The integral is:
[tex]\int_{0}^{4} \sin(\omega t)\cdot t^2[/tex]
I used:
[tex]t^2= \frac{1}{\omega^2}(\omega t)^2[/tex]
Then x=ωt and then dx=ωdt.
ω=7.27E-5[rad/sec]
for t=o --> x=0
for t=4 --> x=ωx4[sec]=0.00029
[tex]\frac{1}{\omega^3}=\frac{1}{(7.27E-5)^3}=2.6E12[/tex]
From integrals tables:
[tex]\int x^2 \sin x=2x\sin x-(x^2-2)\cos x[/tex]
So:
[tex]\frac{1}{\omega^3}\int_{0}^{0.00029}\sin x-(x^2-2)\cos x=211093[/tex]
Can anyone check? the result isn't logical, physically
 

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