Don't understand why this set is bounded

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The discussion revolves around the concept of bounded and unbounded sets in mathematics, specifically focusing on examples provided by a professor. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the definitions and properties of these sets.

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  • Participants discuss the need for precise definitions of bounded sets and question the interpretations of the examples given. There are inquiries about the equivalence relation and how distance is defined in that context.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on definitions and exploring the implications of the examples. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for precise mathematical definitions.

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There is a mention of the original poster's notes and the examples provided by the professor, which may lack clarity or completeness. The discussion also touches on the implications of different types of bounds (upper and lower) for the sets in question.

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Hey all,

We were discussing bounded and unbounded sets in class, and looking over my notes, I see that I have some trouble understanding the concept.

Here are three examples that our professor gave us:

Set A = {x[tex]\in[/tex]R | |x| <10}
Set A = {x[tex]\in[/tex]R | x<10}

A[tex]\subseteq[/tex]Z s.t. x~y iff x|y
Set A = {1,2,3,4,5,8}

Supposedly the first one is bounded, the second one is not, and the third one has a lower bound of 1 but does not have an upper bound.

I just genuinely don't understand why this is the case...anyone care to explain?

Thanks so much!
 
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First of all you need a precise mathematical definition of a bounded set. Without such a definition you will be lost forever. Do you have such a definition in your notes?
 
Chicago_Boy1 said:
Hey all,

We were discussing bounded and unbounded sets in class, and looking over my notes, I see that I have some trouble understanding the concept.

Here are three examples that our professor gave us:

Set A = {x[tex]\in[/tex]R | |x| <10}
Set A = {x[tex]\in[/tex]R | x<10}

A[tex]\subseteq[/tex]Z s.t. x~y iff x|y
This defines an equivalence relation. Do you mean the set of ordered pairs of integers, (x, y), such that x divides y? If so, how are you defining the "distance"?

Set A = {1,2,3,4,5,8}

Supposedly the first one is bounded, the second one is not, and the third one has a lower bound of 1 but does not have an upper bound.

I just genuinely don't understand why this is the case...anyone care to explain?

Thanks so much!
I second Arkajad's suggestion- write out precisely what the definitions of "bounded", "bounded below", and "bounded above" are!
 
Chicago_Boy1 said:
Here are three examples that our professor gave us:

Set A = {x[tex]\in[/tex]R | |x| <10}
The absolute value of x must be less than 10 meaning it must be in the interval (-10, 10).

Set A = {x[tex]\in[/tex]R | x<10}
This one isn't bounded below since x can become arbitrarily small by becoming more negative. For example x would be in the interval (−∞, 10)
A[tex]\subseteq[/tex]Z s.t. x~y iff x|y
Set A = {1,2,3,4,5,8}
By x|y do you mean x as a factor of y?
 

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