Double integral domain with absolute value

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The discussion revolves around determining the domain of a function defined by a double integral involving absolute values, specifically the region described by the inequalities D={(x,y)∈ℝ2: 2|y|-2≤|x|≤½|y|+1}. Participants are exploring the graphical representation of these inequalities and the implications for integration.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to analyze the inequalities through systems of equations and graphical representation, questioning the correctness of their approach. Some participants suggest focusing on determining the domain for y first. Others point out potential errors in the graphical representation of the constraints and discuss the shape of the bounded region.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the graphical interpretation of the inequalities and suggesting methods for approaching the integration. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the inequalities and their implications for the domain.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem as posed, with some noting the importance of accurately grappling with the inequalities and their graphical representations. There is a suggestion to derive initial bounds for |y| as part of the exploration.

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Homework Statement
compute the double integral
Relevant Equations
double integral
D={(x,y)∈ℝ2: 2|y|-2≤|x|≤½|y|+1}

I am struggling on finding the domain of such function
my attempt :

first system
\begin{cases}
x≥2y-2\\
-x≥2y-2\\
x≥-2y-2\\
-x≥-2y-2
\end{cases}

second system
\begin{cases}
x≤y/2+1\\
x≤-y/2+1\\
-x≤y/2+1\\
-x≤-y/2+1\\
\end{cases}

i draw the graph and get the intersection for each system, then intersect the two graphs?
first system
Screen Shot 2020-01-17 at 13.56.26.png

Second
Screen Shot 2020-01-17 at 13.58.22.png

intersection between the two
Screen Shot 2020-01-17 at 13.58.36.png


is the procedure correct or in what am i doing wrong?
 
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Perhaps focus on getting the domain for ##y## first?
 
It looks to me like you have the second constraint graphed wrong. x= 2|y|- 2 consists of two straight lines, the first, for y\ge 0, x= 2y- 2, is the line through (-2, 0) and (0, 1), the second, for y\le 0, x= -2y- 2, is the line through (-2, 0) and (0, -1). That you appear to have graphed correctly.

But x= (1/2)|y|+ 1 seems to be graphed incorrectly. For y\ge 0 that is x= y/2+ 1 which is a straight line through (2, 2) and (1, 0). For y\le 0 it is x= -y/2+ 1 which is a straight line through (2, -2) and (1, 0).

The region bounded by those is an "arrow head" shaped region pointing to the left. The best way to integrate over that region is probably to divide it into y\ge 0 and y\le 0. For y\ge 0, take y going from 0 to 2 and, for each y, x going from 2y- 2 to y/2+ 1. For y \le 0, take y going from -2 to 0 and, for each y, x going from -2y- 2 to -y/2+ 1.
 
PeroK said:
Perhaps focus on getting the domain for ##y## first?
the graph's that you see are depicting each inequality
HallsofIvy said:
It looks to me like you have the second constraint graphed wrong. x= 2|y|- 2 consists of two straight lines, the first, for y\ge 0, x= 2y- 2, is the line through (-2, 0) and (0, 1), the second, for y\le 0, x= -2y- 2, is the line through (-2, 0) and (0, -1). That you appear to have graphed correctly.

But x= (1/2)|y|+ 1 seems to be graphed incorrectly. For y\ge 0 that is x= y/2+ 1 which is a straight line through (2, 2) and (1, 0). For y\le 0 it is x= -y/2+ 1 which is a straight line through (2, -2) and (1, 0).

The region bounded by those is an "arrow head" shaped region pointing to the left. The best way to integrate over that region is probably to divide it into y\ge 0 and y\le 0. For y\ge 0, take y going from 0 to 2 and, for each y, x going from 2y- 2 to y/2+ 1. For y \le 0, take y going from -2 to 0 and, for each y, x going from -2y- 2 to -y/2+ 1.
i've just copied and pasted the inequalities of the systems that you see in geogebra, the first mage is of the first system, the second image is related to the second system, the third is merging the two.

Are the two systems correct? in terms of inequalities combinations
the first one is studying the left side of the inequality , the second the right side. Is this the right way to study that domain?
 
Okay, but you should be able to get ##|y| \le 2## to start things off.
 

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