Double integral from y to 1 and 0 to 1

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around evaluating a double integral with specific limits of integration, focusing on the function \(\frac{1}{1+x^4}\). Participants explore methods for simplifying the evaluation process and consider changing the order of integration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the original poster's attempt at evaluating the integral using partial fractions and substitution, expressing frustration over complex results. Suggestions are made to interchange the order of integration and to sketch the region of integration to better understand the problem. There are questions about the significance of the integral and the shape of the region being integrated over.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on sketching the region of integration and changing the order of integration, indicating a productive direction. However, there is still uncertainty regarding the implications of the integral and the methods to simplify the evaluation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the assignment includes material not covered in class, which adds to the complexity of the problem. There is an emphasis on understanding the geometric interpretation of the integral and the region of integration.

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Homework Statement



Evaluate the integral [itex]\int[/itex]0 to 1[itex]\int[/itex]y to 1[itex]\frac{1}{1+x^4}[/itex]dxdy

The Attempt at a Solution


I managed to do the first one, from y to 1, using partial fractions and then some substitution, and I get a huge answer involving some logarithms and arctans that don't simplify. I've tried putting it into some math software to get an idea of what my answer could look like, but the results are hugh ugly formulas that a human being just couldn't do (or at least not this one). Obviously I am doing something wrong. Is there a way to evaluate without computing the indefinite integrals? Or maybe to switch the x and y somehow? Could it be put into polar form? I really don't know what to do here, I've spent hours computing the first integral only to end up with something harder...
 
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Interchange the order of integration. Draw a sketch of the region of integration and figure out the x and y limits you need to do that.
 
swithing the limits results in the same integral and your answer will be that big ugly thing..i think

nevermind..listen to what Dick said
 
How do I do that? I sketch 1/(1+x^4) and find what?
 
Locoism said:
How do I do that? I sketch 1/(1+x^4) and find what?

No, not the function. Sketch the region of integration in the x-y plane. For every value of y, x goes from y to 1. What's the shape of the domain of integration? It's a triangle, isn't it? You want to express the integral dydx instead of dxdy.
 
oh so the area I'm sketching is the triangle between the line x=y and the x-axis (up to 1). But I don't understand what this integral symbolizes. Am I finding the area in the intersection of that triangle and the function above?
 
Locoism said:
oh so the area I'm sketching is the triangle between the line x=y and the x-axis (up to 1). But I don't understand what this integral symbolizes. Am I finding the area in the intersection of that triangle and the function above?

That triangle is the region of integration. You know how to go from that triangle to the given double integral expression, right? Now write down another double integral where you integrate over dy first then dx. The opposite order to the given integral. This is called 'changing the order of integration'. You'll find it's a LOT easier to integrate.
 
Ok thanks I'll figure it out.
*sigh* I love it when assignments include material that hasn't been mentioned in class...
 
Locoism said:
Ok thanks I'll figure it out.
*sigh* I love it when assignments include material that hasn't been mentioned in class...
It gives you a chance to learn for yourself. That can be a valuable skill to acquire!
 

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