Double integral of mass of circular cone

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The discussion revolves around finding the mass of a right circular cone with a base radius \( r \) and height \( h \), where the density varies with the distance from the vertex. Participants are exploring the implications of this varying density and the appropriate mathematical framework to approach the problem.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are considering whether the problem is best approached as a triple integral or a double integral, with some suggesting that the density function can be expressed in terms of the distance from the vertex. There are discussions about the limits of integration in different coordinate systems and the formulation of the volume element.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing various interpretations and approaches to setting up the integral. Some have suggested specific limits for the integration variables and have offered insights into the relationship between the radius and height of the cone. There is no explicit consensus yet, as different methods and setups are being explored.

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Participants note the absence of a defined coordinate system initially, which affects the interpretation of the problem. There are also references to the axial symmetry of the cone, which influences the choice of volume element and integration limits.

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Find the mass of a right circular cone of base radius r and height h given that the density varies directly with the distance from the vertex


does this mean that density function = K sqrt (x^2 + y^2 + z^2) ?
is it a triple integral problem?
 
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Strictly speaking, no, because you are not given a coordinate system!

However, I understand what you mean. You have set up a "standard" coordinate system so that the vertex of the cone is at (0,0,0) and the central axis of the cone is on the positive z- axis. Yes, in this choice of coordinate system, "density varies directly with distance from the vertex" means that density= k[itex]\sqrt{x^2+y^2+z^2}[/itex].

Yes, this is a triple integral (not the double integral your title implies).
 
you can write it also as double integral
[tex]\rho \propto \sqrt{r^2 +z^2}[/tex], and then write the volume element as [tex]dV=2\pi r dr dz[/tex]
 
you would have problems with limits calculating this integral in x,y,z system.
 
how do you get dV = 2pi r dr dz
p ~ sqrt (r^2 + z^2)
p ~ sqrt (p^2)
so p ~ p

limit on phi:
z = sqrt (x^2 + y^2) (cone)
z = sqrt (p^2 sin^2 phi)
z = p sin phi
p cos phi = r = p sin phi
cos phi = sin phi
phi = pi/4
so limit of phi is 0 -> pi/4

limit of theta is 0 -> 2pi

[tex]\int^{2pi}_{0}\int^{pi/4}_{0}\int^{}_{} p dp dphi dtheta[/tex]

is this correct so far?
 
how do i go about looking for the limit of p?

also it is suppose to say : p dp dphi dtheta in integral
 
you should do it this way.
[tex]\rho \propto \sqrt {r^2+z^2}~~~~(r^2 = x^2+y^2)[/tex]
then write how radius r depend on height z. It's [tex]r=r_0(1-\frac{z}{h})[/tex]
Now you are integrating: [tex]2\pi \int_{0}^{h}\int_{0}^{r_0(1-\frac{z}{h})} \sqrt{r^2+z^2} ~ r dr dz[/tex], first over r and then over z.
2 pi comes from integrating over phi since problem has axial symmetry so volume element is 2 pi r dr dz.

Hope I was clear enough
 

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