Double integral of volume bounded by plane and paraboloid

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the volume of a solid bounded by the plane z = x and the paraboloid z = x^2 + y^2. Participants are exploring the geometric interpretation of these surfaces and their intersections.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Some participants express confusion about whether the plane and paraboloid bound a volume, questioning their graphical representation. Others suggest examining specific cases, such as setting y = 0, to clarify intersections. There is also discussion about the potential use of polar coordinates for integration.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing insights about the geometric properties of the surfaces involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of polar coordinates, and there is a recognition of the need to clarify the intersection of the surfaces.

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There is mention of a shifted circle in the context of polar coordinates, and participants are considering the implications of this shift on their integration setup. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts to visualize the problem and questions about the correctness of proposed integrals.

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Evaluate the volume of the solid bounded by the plane z=x and the paraboloid z = x^2 + y^2


I have tried to graph this, and they don't bound anything? have i graphed it wrong. and is there a way to do these problems where you don't need to draw the graph.
 
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braindead101 said:
Evaluate the volume of the solid bounded by the plane z=x and the paraboloid z = x^2 + y^2


I have tried to graph this, and they don't bound anything? the graph says they intersect at a line, so they don't bound anything... have i graphed it wrong. and is there a way to do these problems where you don't need to draw the graph.
They surely do bound something! If the 3-d graph bothers you assume y= 0. Then your graphs are z= x and z= x^2, which intersect at (0,0) and (0,1).
Letting z= x in z= x^2+ y^2, you get x^2- x+ y^2= x^2- x+ 1/4 + y^2= 1/4 so
(x-1/2)^2+ y^2= 1/4. In the xy-plane, that's a circle with center at (1/2, 0) and tangent to the y-axis. That's the projection of the actual intersection in the xy-plane.
 
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Graphs can be very useful in this type of problem.

z = x is like a ramp that runs the length of the y axis.

What does the parabola equation describe? Can you visualize it?
 
This was also posted in the homework forum. I'm merging it into that thread.
 
am i able to change to polar coordinates with the shifted circle? or should i keep it in x y form

let me know if this is correct:
[tex]\int^{1/2}_{0}\int^{\sqrt{1/4-(x-1/2)^{2}}}_{-\sqrt{1/4-(x-1/2)^{2}}} x^{2} + y^{2} dy dx[/tex]

I think i want to convert to polar form.. but i don't know what to do with the 1/4 inside the ( ) with the x when converting.
also, is my double integral even correct?
 
If it were me, I would convert to polar coordinates. If [itex](x- 1/2)^2+ y^2= 1/4[/itex], then [itex]x^2+ y^2- x+ 1/4= 1/4[/itex] or [itex]x^2+ y^2- x= 0[/itex] so, in polar coordinates [itex]r^2- rcos(\theta)= 0[/itex] and, finally, [itex]r= cos(\theta)[/itex]. Looks nice!
 

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