Double Integral set up problem

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves setting up an iterated integral to find the volume of a region above the plane z=5 and below the surface defined by the function f(x,y)=21-(x^2+y^2)^2. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the limits of integration and how to describe the upper and lower bounds for the volume calculation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to identify the correct limits of integration for the volume calculation, questioning how to represent the lower bound (the circle x^2+y^2=4) and the upper bound (the surface defined by f(x,y)).
  • There is a suggestion to consider the integration variable order and the nature of the integral, with some confusion about whether a double or triple integral is appropriate given the context.
  • One participant proposes thinking about the bounds of integration in terms of level sets of the function, raising questions about how to apply this concept to the setup of the double integral.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and raising questions about the setup of the integral. Some guidance has been provided regarding the integration process, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach or limits of integration yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that they have not covered triple integrals in class, which influences their understanding of how to approach the problem. There is also a mention of needing to integrate over the region where f(x,y) is greater than 5.

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Homework Statement


(exact wording from my homework set) Set up an iterated integral for the volume of the region which is above the plane z=5 and below the graph of f(x,y)=21-(x^2+y^2)^2. Pay attention to what the region of integration should be!


Homework Equations



Not sure.

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok so I figured out the equation for the lower bound of the volume. It's going to be the circle

x^2+y^2=4

I can visualize the shape of the object I just can't figure out where this lower bound is supposed to be in the limits of integration and I am not sure how to describe the upper limit of the object. I know it's the graph but how does that fit into the limits? Another question is what equation am I going to be integrating? Should it be the function given in the problem?
 
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hi efekwulsemmay! :smile:
efekwulsemmay said:
Set up an iterated integral for the volume of the region which is above the plane z=5 and below the graph of f(x,y)=21-(x^2+y^2)^2.

I can visualize the shape of the object I just can't figure out where this lower bound is supposed to be in the limits of integration and I am not sure how to describe the upper limit of the object. I know it's the graph but how does that fit into the limits? Another question is what equation am I going to be integrating? Should it be the function given in the problem?

you want the volume, so you are integrating 1 times dxdydz over the whole volume

just decide which variable you're going to integrate first (x, y, or z?), and then decide what the limits are

then do the second variable, then do the third variable …

show us how far you get :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
you want the volume, so you are integrating 1 times dxdydz over the whole volume

But I thought that since it is a two variable function that it would have to be a double integral. (Also we haven't covered triple integrals in class yet so I don't think he'd assign a problem like that on the homework)
 
efekwulsemmay said:

Homework Statement


(exact wording from my homework set) Set up an iterated integral for the volume of the region which is above the plane z=5 and below the graph of f(x,y)=21-(x^2+y^2)^2. Pay attention to what the region of integration should be!


Homework Equations



Not sure.

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok so I figured out the equation for the lower bound of the volume. It's going to be the circle

x^2+y^2=4

I can visualize the shape of the object I just can't figure out where this lower bound is supposed to be in the limits of integration and I am not sure how to describe the upper limit of the object. I know it's the graph but how does that fit into the limits? Another question is what equation am I going to be integrating? Should it be the function given in the problem?

The volume between two surfaces is the integral of the upper surface less the integral of the lower surface. So you need to integrate [itex]f(x,y) - 5[/itex] over the region where [itex]f(x,y) > 5[/itex].
 
Would it make sense to think about the bounds of integration as the level sets of the function? As in, I need to integrate from the c=5 level set to the c=0 level set (since the c=0 level set gives the maximum value for the function)?

And then to use that as the bounds for the double integral?
 

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