Double integral with polar coordinates

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The discussion revolves around solving a double integral using polar coordinates, with the user struggling to determine the correct limits for θ and r. The initial limits proposed were π/4 to π/2 for θ and 0 to 2sin(θ) for r, but these were found to be incorrect. Participants suggest that the limits for r need to be adjusted and emphasize the importance of accurately defining the region of integration, particularly the half semicircle. The conversation highlights the complexity of the problem and the preference for polar coordinates once the correct values are identified. Ultimately, the user is encouraged to refine their approach to find the correct solution.
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Homework Statement
Let ##A=\{(x,y)\in\mathbb{R}^2| 1\leq y \leq 2, x\geq 0, x^2+(y-1)^2\leq1\}## then ##\iint_A\frac{y}{x^2+y^2}## is
Relevant Equations
##x=r\cos\theta##
##y=r\sin\theta##
Hello there,
I'm struggling in this problem because i think i can't find the right ##\theta## or ##r##

Here's my work:

##\pi/4\leq\theta\leq\pi/2##
and
##0\leq r\leq 2\sin\theta##

So the integral would be: ##\int_{\pi/4}^{\pi/2}\int_{0}^{2\sin\theta}\sin\theta dr d\theta##

Which is equal to: ##\pi/4+1/2## but this is not the right solution..(##1/2## is the correct one)

Any help? Thank you in advance!
 
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Why are you using polar coordinates?
 
I don't know another way to solve it.. i mean is not required but is the only way i know this time
 
Archimedess said:
I don't know another way to solve it.. i mean is not required but is the only way i know this time

Have you drawn a diagram of the region ##A##?
 
PeroK said:
Have you drawn a diagram of the region ##A##?

Yes, i notice that ##1\leq y \leq 2## and ##0\leq x \leq ?## the half semicircle
 
Archimedess said:
Yes, i notice that ##0\leq x \leq 1## and ##1\leq y \leq ?## the half semicircle
Your original post says ##1 \le y \le 2##.
 
PeroK said:
Your original post says ##1 \le y \le 2##.
Yes, sorry edited my post

The problem is now how do i write that half semicircle
 
Archimedess said:
Yes, sorry edited my post

The problem is now how do i write that half semicircle

Is it ##0 \le y \le 2##?
 
PeroK said:
You'll need to change coordinates first before you can easily use polar coordinates.
Sure, that's what i did in my post i think..

I was trying something different like: ##\int_{1}^{2}\int_{0}^{\sqrt{1-(y-1)^2}}\frac{y}{x^2+y^2}dxdy##

But i think is way more easy with polar coordinates once you find the right values..
 
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PeroK said:
Is it ##0 \le y \le 2##?
Nope.. ##1 \le y \le 2## is correct
 
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Archimedess said:
Sure, that's what i did in my post i think..

I was trying something different like: ##\int_{1}^{2}\int_{0}^{\sqrt{1-(y-1)^2}}\frac{y}{x^2+y^2}dxdy##

But i think is way more easy with polar coordinates once you find the right values..

You should be able to do the ##dy## integral first. But, it gets messy after that.
 
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Archimedess said:
Sure, that's what i did in my post i think..

I was trying something different like: ##\int_{1}^{2}\int_{0}^{\sqrt{1-(y-1)^2}}\frac{y}{x^2+y^2}dxdy##

But i think is way more easy with polar coordinates once you find the right values..

You're right. It does come out more easily using polar coodinates. But,
Archimedess said:
Here's my work:

##\pi/4\leq\theta\leq\pi/2##
and
##0\leq r\leq 2\sin\theta##

This is not right. The lower limit for ##r## is not ##0##.
 
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This is not right. The lower limit for ##r## is not ##0##.
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Should it be 1? Even if i use 1 the solution is not right
 
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Archimedess said:
Should it be 1? Even if i use 1 the solution is not right
It's a function of ##\theta##. It can't be constant.
 

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