Double integral with polar coordinates

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The discussion focuses on solving a double integral using polar coordinates, specifically the integral defined by the limits ##\pi/4 \leq \theta \leq \pi/2## and ##0 \leq r \leq 2\sin\theta##. The user initially arrives at an incorrect solution of ##\pi/4 + 1/2##, while the correct answer is ##1/2##. Participants emphasize the importance of accurately defining the limits for ##r## and suggest that the lower limit should be a function of ##\theta## rather than a constant.

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Homework Statement
Let ##A=\{(x,y)\in\mathbb{R}^2| 1\leq y \leq 2, x\geq 0, x^2+(y-1)^2\leq1\}## then ##\iint_A\frac{y}{x^2+y^2}## is
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##x=r\cos\theta##
##y=r\sin\theta##
Hello there,
I'm struggling in this problem because i think i can't find the right ##\theta## or ##r##

Here's my work:

##\pi/4\leq\theta\leq\pi/2##
and
##0\leq r\leq 2\sin\theta##

So the integral would be: ##\int_{\pi/4}^{\pi/2}\int_{0}^{2\sin\theta}\sin\theta dr d\theta##

Which is equal to: ##\pi/4+1/2## but this is not the right solution..(##1/2## is the correct one)

Any help? Thank you in advance!
 
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Why are you using polar coordinates?
 
I don't know another way to solve it.. i mean is not required but is the only way i know this time
 
Archimedess said:
I don't know another way to solve it.. i mean is not required but is the only way i know this time

Have you drawn a diagram of the region ##A##?
 
PeroK said:
Have you drawn a diagram of the region ##A##?

Yes, i notice that ##1\leq y \leq 2## and ##0\leq x \leq ?## the half semicircle
 
Archimedess said:
Yes, i notice that ##0\leq x \leq 1## and ##1\leq y \leq ?## the half semicircle
Your original post says ##1 \le y \le 2##.
 
PeroK said:
Your original post says ##1 \le y \le 2##.
Yes, sorry edited my post

The problem is now how do i write that half semicircle
 
Archimedess said:
Yes, sorry edited my post

The problem is now how do i write that half semicircle

Is it ##0 \le y \le 2##?
 
PeroK said:
You'll need to change coordinates first before you can easily use polar coordinates.
Sure, that's what i did in my post i think..

I was trying something different like: ##\int_{1}^{2}\int_{0}^{\sqrt{1-(y-1)^2}}\frac{y}{x^2+y^2}dxdy##

But i think is way more easy with polar coordinates once you find the right values..
 
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PeroK said:
Is it ##0 \le y \le 2##?
Nope.. ##1 \le y \le 2## is correct
 
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Archimedess said:
Sure, that's what i did in my post i think..

I was trying something different like: ##\int_{1}^{2}\int_{0}^{\sqrt{1-(y-1)^2}}\frac{y}{x^2+y^2}dxdy##

But i think is way more easy with polar coordinates once you find the right values..

You should be able to do the ##dy## integral first. But, it gets messy after that.
 
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Archimedess said:
Sure, that's what i did in my post i think..

I was trying something different like: ##\int_{1}^{2}\int_{0}^{\sqrt{1-(y-1)^2}}\frac{y}{x^2+y^2}dxdy##

But i think is way more easy with polar coordinates once you find the right values..

You're right. It does come out more easily using polar coodinates. But,
Archimedess said:
Here's my work:

##\pi/4\leq\theta\leq\pi/2##
and
##0\leq r\leq 2\sin\theta##

This is not right. The lower limit for ##r## is not ##0##.
 
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This is not right. The lower limit for ##r## is not ##0##.
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Should it be 1? Even if i use 1 the solution is not right
 
  • #14
Archimedess said:
Should it be 1? Even if i use 1 the solution is not right
It's a function of ##\theta##. It can't be constant.
 

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