Doubts on Skin effect & Electricity

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of skin effect, which blocks the propagation of an electromagnetic wave within a conductor. The question is then raised about how energy from an electric plant can reach homes through conductors that can span over 1000 miles. The conversation suggests that higher voltage in power lines helps reduce the current and that the power is actually carried in an electromagnetic wave between the power line conductors. The skin effect is also mentioned in relation to this phenomenon.
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Hi all! This is my first post :D

I came across skin effect which blocks propagation of an em-wave within a conductor...
But doesn't the energy generated at an electric plant reach our house through conductors flowing for over a 1000 miles sometimes?

If I have to consider it just as an alternating voltage/electric field which makes the charge carriers to flow such long distance, then I have these 2 doubts:
1. Can just 11000 volts be sufficient for pulling / pushing electrons in the conductor after thousands of miles from the source?
2. Even though it is an alternating electric field at the source, while propogation, there will an alternating magnetic field around the conductor which makes it an em wave. And now the same skin effect should work here to to limit the propagation to just a few millimeters or cms...

Thanks in Advance for whoever clears my doubts :P
 
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The interstate power line voltage in the U.S. is often over 700,000 volts. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overhead_power_line
Higher voltage reduces the current. The power line conductor diameter is small relative to the skin depth at 60 (or 50) Hz, so the skin loss is small. The actual power is carried in an em wave between the power line conductors (the Poynting vector), because the energy flow (magnitude and direction) is the vector cross product of the magnetic field and the electric field.. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poynting_vector
Bob S
 
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I understand your doubts and it is important to question and seek clarification on scientific concepts. The skin effect is a well-established phenomenon in electromagnetism, where high frequency currents tend to flow on the surface of a conductor rather than through its entire cross-section. This is due to the resistance of the conductor increasing with frequency, causing the current to concentrate on the outer layer where the resistance is lower.

Regarding your first doubt, it is important to note that the voltage alone does not determine the flow of electrons in a conductor. The resistance of the conductor, which is dependent on its material and length, plays a significant role in determining the flow of electrons. In the case of electricity transmission, the conductors used are typically made of materials with low resistance, such as copper or aluminum, and they are designed to minimize losses over long distances.

As for your second doubt, it is true that an alternating magnetic field is created around the conductor during the propagation of electricity. However, this does not necessarily mean that the skin effect would limit the propagation to just a few millimeters or centimeters. The skin depth, which is the depth at which the current is reduced to 1/e (about 37%) of its original value, is dependent on the frequency of the current. At the frequencies used in electricity transmission, the skin depth is typically much larger than the diameter of the conductor, allowing for efficient transmission over long distances.

In conclusion, the skin effect is a well-understood phenomenon in electromagnetism and is taken into consideration in the design and operation of electrical transmission systems. I hope this helps clarify any doubts you may have had. Keep questioning and seeking answers, it is the foundation of scientific progress.
 

1. What is skin effect in electricity?

Skin effect is a phenomenon in which high frequency electricity tends to flow on the surface of a conductor rather than through its entire cross section. This is due to the varying magnetic fields created by the changing current, which causes the electrons to be pushed towards the outer edge of the conductor.

2. How does skin effect affect the flow of electricity?

Skin effect increases the effective resistance of a conductor, which in turn reduces the flow of electricity. This is because the majority of the current is confined to the surface, leaving the interior of the conductor with less current. As the frequency of the electricity increases, the skin depth (the depth at which the current is reduced to 37% of its maximum value) decreases, resulting in higher resistance and reduced flow of electricity.

3. Does skin effect only occur in high frequency electricity?

Yes, skin effect is primarily observed in high frequency electricity. This is because at low frequencies, the magnetic fields are not strong enough to significantly impact the flow of electrons. However, as the frequency increases, the magnetic fields become stronger, causing the electrons to be pushed towards the outer edge of the conductor.

4. How does the skin depth vary with different conductors?

The skin depth is dependent on the conductivity and permeability of the conductor, as well as the frequency of the electricity. Conductors with higher conductivity and permeability will have a smaller skin depth, while those with lower conductivity and permeability will have a larger skin depth. Additionally, the skin depth decreases as the frequency of the electricity increases.

5. What are the practical implications of skin effect?

Skin effect can lead to increased power losses and decreased efficiency in high frequency applications. It can also cause uneven distribution of current in multi-stranded conductors, which can lead to overheating and damage. To mitigate these effects, special types of conductors such as Litz wire or hollow conductors can be used, or the frequency of the electricity can be decreased.

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