Dropping an object from a moving plane.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angle at which a rescue capsule should be dropped from a plane flying at 1200m and 430 km/h to land near a person in the water. The initial answer provided is 57 degrees, but participants debate the necessity of knowing the horizontal distance to solve the problem accurately. They discuss the time it takes for the capsule to fall and how to calculate the horizontal distance using the plane's speed. There is confusion regarding the capsule's trajectory, with some asserting that it retains the plane's horizontal speed while falling straight down. Ultimately, participants emphasize that determining the horizontal distance is crucial for finding the correct angle of release.
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I have to solve the following problem:

"A rescue plane is flying at a constant elevation of 1200m with a speed of 430 km/h toward a point directly over a person in the water. At what angle of sight \theta should the pilot release a rescue capsule if it is land near the person in the water?"

The answer we are given is 57 degrees.

Here is the setup I think we have:
(we are not given a diagram)

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5049/setupsq1.jpg Wouldn't the angle needed depend on the "horizontal distance" as labeled in the graph? In other words, if the angle is a set 57 degrees then the horizontal distance must be some fixed value.

We are not given the "horizontal distance" in the problem.

I imagine I could figure out that distance since I know the answer of 57 degrees, but if I wasn't given the answer there is no way to have solved this problem without knowing the horizontal distance - correct?
 
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I think I figured out the solution. I am posting my solution.

The object falls at a constant rate so we can determine the time the object takes to fall to the ground:

<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> y_f = - \frac{1}{2}gt^2 \\ <br /> y_f = - 4.9t^2 \\ <br /> - 1200 = - 4.9t^2 \\ <br /> t = 15.642 \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />

We can now find the distance the object moves horizontally using the time we found earlier and knowing that

<br /> x_f = v_i \cos \left( \alpha \right)t<br />

Alpha is zero since the object is dropped and falls straight down.

<br /> x_f = 430\cos \left( 0 \right)t<br />

In the next step I also have to convert 430km/h to m/s

<br /> x_f = \left( {\frac{{430{\rm{km}}}}{{1{\rm{h}}}}\frac{{1{\rm{h}}}}{{3600{\rm{s}}}}\frac{{{\rm{1000m}}}}{{{\rm{1km}}}}} \right)\cos \left( 0 \right)t<br />

<br /> x_f = 119.44t<br />

<br /> x_f = 119.44\left( {15.642} \right)<br />

<br /> x_f = 1868.3{\rm{ meters}}<br />Here are my final answers:

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/7245/diagram0001np1.jpg

So I guess the correct angle the problem was looking for was \gamma. Does this solution look correct?

Except in my drawing \gamma should be measured counterclockwise from the -90^{\circ} axis (the arrow indicating the direction of measurement for \gamma should be reversed.)
 
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Actually, calculating that horizontal distance is precisely the problem. Once you know that, figuring out theta is trivial.

You can calculate how long it will take before the rescue capsule knocks the guy underwater. Since you also know the speed of the plane you can figure out at what horizontal distance you should release the capsule.

And by the way, I think the angle theta should be measured from the vertical.
 
opticaltempest said:
We can now find the distance the object moves horizontally using the time we found earlier and knowing that

<br /> x_f = v_i \cos \left( \alpha \right)t<br />

Alpha is zero since the object is dropped and falls straight down.

<br /> x_f = 430\cos \left( 0 \right)t<br />

I don't get how the object falls straight down if it has a velocity equal to that of the plane..
 
opticaltempest said:
<br /> x_f = v_i \cos \left( \alpha \right)t<br />

Alpha is zero since the object is dropped and falls straight down.
That's the only step that looks wrong. The horizontal velocity of the capsule is constant and equal to that of the plane. So that's why you use x=vt, where v is the velocity of the plane.
 
here is the solution . i am not sure its right though because I didnt get the answer you mentioned.

430km/h=131m/s

s = 1/2gt^2
1200=5t^2
t=4*(15)^1/2 = 15.49


x = Vx(t)
x = 131(t)
x = 131*15.49= 2029.19

tan(0)= y/x
= 1200/2029.19= 0.59

therefore theta = 30.5

(edit : i might be a little off. I have used g=10m/s^2)
 
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