Dropping voltage at output of opamp

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem with the output voltage of an OP-AMP decreasing by 0.1V after 3-4 minutes, despite reducing the gain. Suggestions are made to check the decimal place display on the digital voltmeter, the input and output connections, and the stability of the power supply voltage. Possible causes mentioned include leakage currents in the capacitors and varying supply voltage. Additional information is provided about the power source being a 5V supply from an Arduino Nano connected to a laptop via USB. The conversation ends with a question about other components powered by the Arduino and the total current draw of the system.
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Minh Thanh

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I have problem at output of the first opamp . About 3 -4 minutes , the opamp's output voltage decreases by 0.1V . Although I reduced gain of opamp to 2, but the opamp 's output was still reducing 0.1V about 3 -4 minutes .

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How many decimal places to the right of the decimal point are displayed on the digital voltmeter you are using to monitor this OP-AMP output voltage?
 
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NascentOxygen said:
How many decimal places to the right of the decimal point are displayed on the digital voltmeter you are using to monitor this OP-AMP output voltage?
It is two ..
 
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Minh Thanh said:
I have problem at output of the first opamp . About 3 -4 minutes , the opamp's output voltage decreases by 0.1V . Although I reduced gain of opamp to 2, but the opamp 's output was still reducing 0.1V about 3 -4 minutes .

And this happens if the input is connected to the ground? If the input is an open circuit something like this could happen, since the input impedance is extremely high and any kind of stray capacitance could form a RC circuit with the input impedance.
If it isn't the input maybe try it without C1
 
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What is connected to the BNC?
 
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berkeman said:
What is connected to the BNC?
that is pH probe.
 
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Minh Thanh said:
that is pH probe.
And the probe is sitting in mid-air, not immersed in a solution, during the times you observe the OP-AMP output drifting?
 
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What sort of capacitor is C2? Try removing C2 temporarily? The current through R4 is about 120uA so if C2 is leaking 10uA that would reduce the output voltage by 0.1V. Leakage currents for electrolytic capacitors can change when they are new. Might not be this but worth a try.

How stable is the power supply voltage? R6 and R7 add 1.2V to the output...

R7 * 5V/(R6+ R7) = 1.2V

..but if the 5V supply varies so does this value.
 
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CWatters said:
What sort of capacitor is C2? Try removing C2 temporarily? The current through R4 is about 120uA so if C2 is leaking 10uA that would reduce the output voltage by 0.1V. Leakage currents for electrolytic capacitors can change when they are new. Might not be this but worth a try.

How stable is the power supply voltage? R6 and R7 add 1.2V to the output...

R7 * 5V/(R6+ R7) = 1.2V

..but if the 5V supply varies so does this value.
I use power supply 5v from Arduino Nano that connected to Laptop by USB
 
  • #10
I recommend you monitor the voltage on AOUT (IC1A Pin 1) to see if the 0.1V drop is introduced in the 1st or 2nd stage.
 
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Minh Thanh said:
I use power supply 5v from Arduino Nano that connected to Laptop by USB
what else is powered off the arduino?
What is the total current draw of the system?
 

1. How does an opamp output voltage drop?

The output voltage of an opamp can drop due to a variety of factors such as the input voltage, the load resistance, and the opamp's own specifications. In general, the output voltage will drop if the opamp is not able to provide enough current to meet the load's demand.

2. What are the common causes of voltage drop at the output of an opamp?

Some common causes of voltage drop at the output of an opamp include an inadequate power supply, a high load resistance, or a mismatch between the input and output voltages. Additionally, opamps can have inherent limitations in their output current and voltage capabilities, which can also contribute to voltage drop.

3. Can the voltage drop at the output of an opamp be prevented?

In some cases, voltage drop at the output of an opamp can be prevented by using a more suitable opamp with higher output current and voltage capabilities. Additionally, ensuring that the power supply and load resistance are appropriate for the opamp can also help prevent voltage drop.

4. How does voltage drop affect the performance of an opamp?

Voltage drop can significantly affect the performance of an opamp, as it can result in decreased output voltage, increased distortion, and reduced stability. It can also cause the opamp to operate outside of its specified range, leading to potential damage or malfunction.

5. Are there any techniques for reducing voltage drop at the output of an opamp?

There are several techniques that can be used to reduce voltage drop at the output of an opamp, such as using a lower load resistance, increasing the power supply voltage, or using a buffer amplifier. Additionally, careful selection and design of the opamp circuit can also help reduce voltage drop and improve performance.

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