##Ds^{\pm}## to ##\tau## question on Branching Ratio

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The discussion revolves around the branching ratios of the decay of ##D_s^\pm## mesons into ##\tau## leptons and the discrepancies observed in different sources. Participants are examining the reported values from the Particle Data Group (PDG) and other literature, questioning the consistency and precision of these measurements.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes a discrepancy between the branching ratios for the decay of ##D_s^\pm## into muons reported in different PDG editions, questioning the reliability of the information.
  • Another participant mentions that the muonic branching fraction does not directly inform the branching fraction for tau decays, suggesting that the tau branching fraction is approximately 6%.
  • It is pointed out that the two values (5.6 and 7.4) are statistically compatible at about 1.4 standard deviations, indicating no significant anomaly.
  • Participants reference multiple measurements contributing to the newer average, which may explain the differences in reported values over time.
  • One participant expresses confusion over the interpretation of the branching ratios and the implications of their compatibility, leading to further inquiries about statistical deviations.
  • Another participant corrects a previous misunderstanding regarding the tau decay rate, clarifying the correct value and its context.
  • Discussion includes a calculation of the standard deviation between the two branching ratios, highlighting the importance of considering uncertainties in such measurements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the interpretation of the branching ratios and their compatibility. While some argue that the values are consistent, others express concern over the discrepancies and the implications for precision in measurements.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the discrepancies in branching ratios may stem from different measurement techniques or updates in data over time. The discussion reflects the complexities involved in interpreting experimental results and the importance of statistical analysis in evaluating compatibility.

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Hi I have some question...I want to find what fraction of some produced ##D_s^\pm## to decay into ##\tau##'s.
I was looking around the pdg and I came across something that confused me.
Here:
http://pdg.lbl.gov/2014/listings/rpp2014-list-Ds-plus-minus.pdf
on page 4 it lists the semileptonic decays, and an example for the ratio to muons it gives: ##Br(D_s^\pm \rightarrow \mu^\pm \nu_\mu)=(5.56 \pm 0.25)~ \times 10^{-3}##

However in this:
http://pdg.lbl.gov/2006/reviews/dsdecaycons_s034310.pdf
Equation (2) gives a totally different Branching ratio...
##Br(D_s^\pm \rightarrow \mu^\pm \nu_\mu)=0.0074\pm 0.0013= (7.4 \pm 1.3) \times 10^{-3}##

Why is this happening? (or what am I reading wrong?)
 
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Well, the muonic branching fraction won't tell you the tau branching fraction, which is about 6%. But besides that, why shouldn't the number change and become more precise over the last 8 years?
 
5.6 is compatible with 7.4 +- 1.3 at a level of ~1.4 standard deviations. Nothing unusual.
If you check the http://pdg8.lbl.gov/rpp2014v1/pdgLive/BranchingRatio.action?parCode=S034&desig=7 , you'll see multiple measurements after 2006 going into this new, more precise average.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Well, the muonic branching fraction won't tell you the tau branching fraction, which is about 6%.

I would take the value from pdg for the branching ratio, however I came across this incompatible values and I became more aware of using those numbers...

Vanadium 50 said:
But besides that, why shouldn't the number change and become more precise over the last 8 years?

I think because the values are not compatible (with errors)
 
They are perfectly compatible, see the post above (we posted nearly at the same time).

Table 6.6 gives 6.4% for tau neutrinos, you are looking at the wrong decay (##D^\pm##).
 
Oh I am sorry, for my last post, it's 100% wrong.

However @mfb I would like to ask how you can see the 1.4 std in the above... thanks
 
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7.4-5.6 = 1.8 deviation
1.8/1.3=1.38 or about 1.4.

A better estimate would take the uncertainty on the more precise value into account. The uncertainties could have some positive correlation, however (from systematic effects), so not taking it into account it is a conservative estimate.
 
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