E= 2.377074x1010 J * 380 kgE= 9.038314x1012 J

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The problem involves calculating the total mechanical energy of a 380 kg satellite in a circular orbit located 3.0 Earth radii above the Earth's surface. The discussion centers around the relevant equations for mechanical energy, including kinetic and potential energy components.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the suitability of equations for calculating mechanical energy and question the assumptions regarding the radius of the orbit. There is an exploration of how to derive the satellite's speed and the implications of using the Earth's radius versus the orbit radius.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the equations to use and have prompted further exploration of the satellite's speed and the forces involved. There is an ongoing examination of the calculations and the need to include the mass of the satellite in the energy equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the satellite's mass is negligible compared to Earth's mass and that the potential energy equation must be adjusted for the distance from the center of the Earth. There is also mention of the specific mechanical energy being calculated instead of the total mechanical energy.

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Homework Statement


What is the total mechanical energy of a 380kg satellite in a circular orbit 3.0 Earth radii above the surface?


Homework Equations


W= E2- E1

E= 1/2 mv2- [itex]\frac{GmM}{r}[/itex]


The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure if the equations above are suitable to solve this or I just don't understand how to start the question.
 
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Mechanical Energy is the sum of the potential energy, and the kinetic energy.

Emechanical = Ekinetic + EPotential

Since you're not close to the surface of the Earth, equating the potential energy to (mgh) is not applicable.

Epotential = (-GMm)/r

- r is the distance from the two objects centers,
- G is the gravitational constant of Earth
- M is the mass of Earth
- m is the mass of the satellite

Em = (1/2)mv2 - (GMm)/r

You have all the variables for the potential energy, and for the kinetic energy, you have the mass. So you need to solve for the velocity.

Since the mass of the satellite is just about negligible in relation to the earth, you can use the equation,

v = √(GM/r)

With that, you should be able to solve for the total mechanical energy.
 
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hsphysics2 said:

Homework Statement


What is the total mechanical energy of a 380kg satellite in a circular orbit 3.0 Earth radii above the surface?

Homework Equations


[STRIKE]W= E2- E1[/STRIKE]

E= 1/2 mv2- [itex]\frac{GmM}{r}[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure if the equations above are suitable to solve this or I just don't understand how to start the question.

The equation is good, you need to find the speed of the satellite. The satellite travels along a circle with speed v. What is the radius of the orbit? What is its centripetal acceleration? What force provides the centripetal force?

ehild
 
ehild said:
The equation is good, you need to find the speed of the satellite.


The satellite travels along a circle with speed v. What is the radius of the orbit? What is its centripetal acceleration? What force provides the centripetal force?

ehild

so,

Fc= mac
(GmM)/RE2=(mv2)/RE
v2=(GM)/RE

where RE is the radius of the earth


then,

E= K+ UG where K=1/2(mv2) and UG=-(GmM)/r2 and r= 2.55x107m (equal to 4 Earth radii)

so,

E= 1/2(mv2) - (GmM)/r2
E= 1/2(GM)/RE) - (GM)/r2
E= 15633739.23 J
 
hsphysics2 said:
so,

Fc= mac
(GmM)/RE2=(mv2)/RE
v2=(GM)/RE

where RE is the radius of the earth

Why do you calculate the speed of the satellite with the radius of Earth?? You know that the radius of the the circular orbit is 4 Earth-radius.

ehild
 
ehild said:
Why do you calculate the speed of the satellite with the radius of Earth?? You know that the radius of the the circular orbit is 4 Earth-radius.

ehild

so it would just be

E= 1/2(GM/r) - (GM)/r
E= -7819322.353 J
 
hsphysics2 said:
so it would just be

E= 1/2(GM/r) - (GM)/r
E= -7819322.353 J

You haven't included the mass of the satellite. So as it stands so far, what you've calculated is the Specific Mechanical Energy (energy per kg).
 
gneill said:
You haven't included the mass of the satellite. So as it stands so far, what you've calculated is the Specific Mechanical Energy (energy per kg).

would it be,

E= K + UG
E= 1/2 (mv2) - (GmM)/r
E= 1/2 m(GM/r) - (GmM)/r
E= 2.377074x1010 J
 
hsphysics2 said:
would it be,

E= K + UG
E= 1/2 (mv2) - (GmM)/r
E= 1/2 m(GM/r) - (GmM)/r
E= 2.377074x1010 J

No. The formula's okay, but something went wrong in the execution.

Your previous value for the specific energy was good. Just multiply that by the mass of the satellite!
 
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