E-field, force, & changing sign of charge (grade 12)

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the net electric field and force experienced by a charge in an electric field, specifically focusing on the implications of changing the sign of the charge. The subject area includes concepts from electrostatics and vector analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the net electric field and the force on a charge, questioning whether to consider only the magnitude of the charge initially. There are suggestions to separate the electric field into components for clarity. The implications of changing the charge's sign are also explored, particularly regarding the direction of the force.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing calculations and clarifying concepts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of vector components and the interpretation of force direction upon changing the charge's sign. There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions and calculations presented.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the absence of complete problem statements, which may affect the assumptions being made about the electric field and charge interactions.

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Homework Statement


a) Find the net electric field at a point
b) Find the net force experienced by a charge of -1.2 x 10-5 C placed at that point
c) What would happen if the charge changed signs?

Homework Equations


FE = qε

The Attempt at a Solution


a) Solved: 6.7 x 104 N/C [E 63° N]

b) FE = (6.7 x 104 N/C)(1.2 x 10-5 C)
= 0.80 N [S 27° W]

I'm not sure about this. I think I'm only supposed to take the magnitude of the charge into account, and figure out directions after? Also am I correct to use the net field I've already calculated?

c) The magnitude of the force would remain the same, but the directions would swap since the positive charge is being attracted rather than repelled (0.80 N [E 63° N]).
 
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krbs said:
I'm not sure about this. I think I'm only supposed to take the magnitude of the charge into account, and figure out directions after?
You can do that, or you could separate the field vector into individual components (East and North, corresponding to X and Y components in a Cartesian coordinate system), then compute the force components individually, recombining the resulting components into your "geographical polar" form afterwards.

krbs said:
Also am I correct to use the net field I've already calculated?
Presumably so, although without seeing the rest of the problem statement we can only assume that your field is correct.

krbs said:
c) The magnitude of the force would remain the same, but the directions would swap since the positive charge is being attracted rather than repelled (0.80 N [E 63° N]).
If by "swap" you mean a 180° direction change, then yes.

You probably don't want to use "attracted rather than repelled" as a descriptor since that implies an object to which something is attracted or repelled. Here, as far as we can tell from the information you've supplied, there's just a field in space without a source being defined.
 
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Thanks for your response. I'll add the missing info.

a) Calculate the net electric field at point A for each of the following charge distributions.

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Ex = (9.0 x 109 Nm2/C2)(3.0 x 10-5 C)/(3.0m)2
= 3.0 x 104 N/C [East]

Ey = (9.0 x 109 Nm2/C2)(6.0 x 10-5 C)/(3.0m)2
= 6.0 x 104 N/C [North]

Enet2 = (3.0 x 104)2 + (6.0 x 104)2
Enet = 6.7 x 104 N/C

θ = tan-1(6.0 x 104/3.0 x 104)
= 63°
∴ Enet = 6.7 x 104 N/C [E 63° N]
gneill said:
You can do that, or you could separate the field vector into individual components (East and North, corresponding to X and Y components in a Cartesian coordinate system), then compute the force components individually, recombining the resulting components into your "geographical polar" form afterwards.

Alright, I think I understand.

c) The direction of the force experience by the particle at point A would change directions because the negative charge to the east is now attracting rather than repelling the charge, as is the negative charge to the north of point A. The new net force is therefore 0.80 N [E 63° N].
 
That looks good.
 
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Thank you
 

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