Early Catalog of Planet-Hosting Multiple Star (≥ 3) Systems

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The discussion revolves around the cataloging of multiple star systems that host planets, specifically focusing on systems with three or more stars. Participants explore statistical properties of these systems, including the characteristics of the stars and the planets within them, as well as the implications of the findings on our understanding of stellar populations.

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  • Some participants highlight that the catalog presents about 30 triple systems and one to three quadruple systems containing nearly 40 planets, noting the hierarchical nature of these systems.
  • It is mentioned that the stellar primaries in these systems tend to be more massive than expected from single star statistics, with a focus on spectral types A, F, and G.
  • Participants discuss the classification of planetary orbital configurations in relation to the hierarchy of the star systems.
  • One participant points out that the Sun is considered a high mass star, being in the top 5% of main sequence stars, which they argue is rarely acknowledged in popular science discussions.
  • Another participant provides statistical breakdowns of nearby stars by spectral class, suggesting that the majority of stars in the solar neighborhood are less massive than the Sun.
  • There is a mention of the potential for future planetary search missions to expand the database of known planet-hosting systems.

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Participants express differing views on the classification of the Sun among main sequence stars, with some emphasizing its high mass status while others challenge the portrayal of the Sun as "average." The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these statistics for broader astrophysical understanding.

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Participants note limitations in the data, including the potential incompleteness of the star classifications and the challenges in verifying the statistics across the Milky Way.

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Interesting paper of triple and higher order star systems with planets.

An Early Catalog of Planet Hosting Multiple Star Systems of Order Three and Higher​

https://arxiv.org/abs/2209.11346

ABSTRACT - We present a catalog (status July 1, 2022) of triple and higher order systemsidentified containing exoplanets based on data from the literature, including various analyses. We explore statistical properties of the systems with focuson both the stars and the planets. So far, about 30 triple systems and one to three quadruple systems, including (mildly) controversial cases, have been found. The total number of planets is close to 40. All planet-hosting triple star systems are highly hierarchic, consisting of a quasi-binary complemented by a distant stellar component, which is in orbit about the common center of mass. Furthermore, the quadruple systems are in fact pairs of close binaries ("double-doubles"), with one binary harboring a planet. For the different types of star-planet systems, we introduce a template for the classifications of planetary orbital configurations in correspondence to the hierarchy of the system and the planetary host. The data show that almost all stars are main-sequence stars, as expected. However, the stellar primaries tend to be more massive (i.e., corresponding to spectral types A, F, and G) than expected from single star statistics, a finding also valid for stellar secondaries but less pronounced. Tertiary stellar components are almost exclusively low-mass stars of spectral type M. Almost all planets have been discovered based oneither the Radial Velocity or the Transit method. Both gas giants (the dominant type) and terrestrial planets (including super-Earths) have been identified. We anticipate the expansion of this data base in the light of future planetary search missions.

https://phys.org/news/2023-05-astrophysicists-planet-hosting-three-star.html

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The data show that almost all stars are main-sequence stars, as expected. However, the stellar primaries tend to be more massive (i.e., corresponding to spectral types A, F, and G) than expected from single star statistics, a finding also valid for stellar secondaries but less pronounced. Tertiary stellar components are almost exclusively low-mass stars of spectral type M.
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There is a point made with numbers, though these vary. Namely that Sun is a high mass star - it is pointed out that this is rarely stated.
The two statistics they quote are somewhat divergent and not specific to Sun, but Sun is in about top 5% of main sequence stars.
 
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snorkack said:
There is a point made with numbers, though these vary. Namely that Sun is a high mass star - it is pointed out that this is rarely stated.
The two statistics they quote are somewhat divergent and not specific to Sun, but Sun is in about top 5% of main sequence stars.
Certainly never reported like that in the media or pop sci.

"Average star" Top 5% is not average.

EDIT: from wiki "Sun has an absolute magnitude of +4.83, estimated to be brighter than about 85% of the stars in the Milky Way, most of which are red dwarfs.[30][31] "
 
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Certainly never reported like that in the media or pop sci.

"Average star" Top 5% is not average.

EDIT: from wiki "Sun has an absolute magnitude of +4.83, estimated to be brighter than about 85% of the stars in the Milky Way, most of which are red dwarfs.[30][31] "
For something that can be analyzed, see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nearest_stars_and_brown_dwarfs
which at present covers 20 ly, and does have the disadvantage of being editable (and being Wikipedia)
Grouping by spectral class, I count:
  1. 2 A stars: Sirius A and Altair
  2. 1 F star: Procyon A
  3. 7 G stars. This takes more detailed breakdown... By brightness, α Centauri A, Achird A, and δ Pavonis are brighter than Sun. By mass, Achird A is less massive although brighter. In total, there are thus 6 main sequence stars brighter than Sun, and 5 that are more massive. We are at a total on 10 A, F and G stars combined
  4. 15 K stars
  5. 79 M stars (including the M8 ones)
  6. 2 L brown dwarfs
  7. 16 T brown dwarfs
  8. 4 Y brown dwarfs. Probably not complete (maybe T is not complete either), and not all Y objects qualify as stars.
  9. 6 white dwarfs, of which 1 (Sirius B) is more massive than Sun
Looking at the statement "all main sequence stars", I count a grand total of 104 main sequence stars (2A+1F+7G+15K+79M) of which 7 are Sun or brighter than Sun. Almost 7%, more than my estimate but close. I also count 27 off-main-sequence "stars" (21 brown dwarfs and 6 white), so total 131 "stars"... but with the strong suspicion of more late-T, early-Y dwarfs (who can check?). Sun or more massive than Sun is again exactly 7 of them (now excluding Achird A but including Sirius B instead), so almost 95% of stars in solar neighbourhood are less massive than Sun.
But who can check the rest of Milky Way?
 
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