Easy Integration of Sinusoidal Functions with Multiple Integrals

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of a function defined by nested integrals involving sinusoidal functions. The original poster presents a function F(x) that includes multiple layers of integration and seeks clarification on the differentiation process, particularly in relation to the chain rule and the fundamental theorem of calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of the chain rule in differentiating nested integrals. The original poster questions the necessity of further differentiation after applying the chain rule and seeks clarification on the role of the integrand evaluated at the boundary variable.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the differentiation process, suggesting the use of a substitution for clarity. There is an acknowledgment of a potential error in the original poster's expression, but no consensus has been reached regarding the correctness of the final form of the derivative.

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There is mention of formatting issues with LaTeX in the original post, which may have contributed to confusion. The discussion also highlights the importance of correctly applying the fundamental theorem of calculus in this context.

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Homework Statement


F(x) = sin ([tex]\int[/tex]0 to x sin ( [tex]\int[/tex] 0 to y sin^3(u) du) dy )

find F'(x)

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The Attempt at a Solution



Is the answer

cos ([tex]\int[/tex]0 to x sin ( [tex]\int[/tex] 0 to y sin^3(u) du) dt ) sin( [tex]\int[/tex] 0 to x sin^3(u) du) dy ) sin^3(x)?

because when you differentiate the integral, the function you get becomes with respect to the boundary variable and so the last terms become with respect to x and I have to differentiate them as well?

([tex]\int[/tex]0 to x sin ( [tex]\int[/tex] 0 to y sin^3(u) du) dy ) this becomes sin ( tex]\int[/tex] 0 to x sin^3(u) du), then since the integral in the argument is with respect to x, I must differentiate that as well to get sin^3(x)

thanks
 
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I doubt anyone can make sense of that. Use a little tex to make it readable. For example, you do an integral like this:

[tex]\int_{lower limit here}^{upper limit here} integrand\ dx [/itex]<br /> <br /> To see what I did just click on it. You can copy and paste it and use it to post your question so we can read it.[/tex]
 
thanks, I didn't know how to do that

anyway, I'm looking for the derivative of:

[tex] F(x) = sin(\int_{0}^{x} sin(\int_{0}^{y} sin^3(u)\ du)\ dy )[/tex] I'm pretty sure that it comes out to be: [tex] F'(x) = [cos(\int_{0}^{x} sin(\int_{0}^{y} sin^3(u)\ du)\ dy ) \ dx] sin(\int_{0}^{x} sin^3(u)\ du) sin^3(x)[/tex]

But I'm not 100% clear about the steps. Why do I have to keep differentiating after I differentiate [tex](\int_{0}^{x} sin(\int_{0}^{y} sin^3(u)\ du)\ dy )[/tex] (from the chain rule)

Is it because when I differentiate the expression, [tex]sin(\int_{0}^{y} sin^3(u)\ du)\ dy )[/tex], it is evaluated at x and so I must differentiate that expression? (since I am differentiating with respect to x)

thank you
 
You have an extra dx at the end of your F(x) that shouldn't be there.

Call

[tex] <br /> g(x)= \int_{0}^{x} sin(\int_{0}^{y} sin^3(u)\ du)\ dy[/tex]

so your F(x) = sin(g(x)) and F'(x) = cos(g(x)) g'(x) by the chain rule.

Now by the fundamental theorem of calculus to get g'(x) you simply write the integrand in g(x) with the dummy variable y replaced by x:

[tex]g'(x) = sin(\int_{0}^{x} sin^3(u)\ du)[/tex]

Put those together; I think it is a bit different than what you wrote. It's late and I'm a little sleepy so check it. :zzz:
 
thanks, I noticed the extra dx. I left it there by accident after copying and pasting the integral latex code

by the chain rule it should be F'(x) = cos(g(x) )g'(x), but how come the answer has sin^3(x) at the end? is it wrong? (I got this answer from someone's notes, refer to post #3)
thanks
 
forgive me for bumping.. but bump
 

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