Efficiency, Loss....is there a more specific term?

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The discussion centers on the efficiency difference between direct heating with a butane gas fire and indirect heating through steam generation to power an electric heater. The term "relative efficiency" is suggested to describe the threefold increase in BTU required for indirect heating compared to direct heating. It is noted that the original butane fire may not achieve 100% efficiency due to factors like total versus sensible energy output. Additionally, proper ventilation is emphasized as a crucial factor that can affect overall efficiency. Understanding these nuances is important for accurately discussing heating efficiency in such scenarios.
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Suppose I heat a room directly by lighting a fire in the room, let's say it is a butane gas fire and it takes n BTU to raise the temperature by 10°C.

Now, suppose I don't like the smell of burning gas fumes and decide instead to move the same gas fire outside and boil water to generate steam to run a generator to produce electricity to power an electric heater in the same room and it takes 3n BTU to raise the temperature by 10°C.

Is there a technical term to descibe the 3 x BTU difference between direct heat and indirect heat in the above?
 
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popularscience said:
Is there a technical term to descibe the 3 x BTU difference between direct heat and indirect heat in the above?

The word in your title; efficiency. I'm not sure what other word you are searching for.
 
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I think it would be best to call it something like the "relative efficiency" because the original butane fire isn't going to be 100% efficient.
 
I don't see a problem with using "efficiency" as long as you describe clearly what you are talking about. As said, it isn't necessarily straightforward. For this situation, there is a potential difference between total and sensible energy output (lower vs higher heating value), that may still make the efficiency of the fire in the room less than 100%. And if the system is properly vented so as not to violate code/kill anyone, the ventilation should be factored into the efficiency as well.
 
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