Efficiency of a Heat Engine: How to Calculate Heat Transfer in a Monotonic Gas

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The discussion revolves around calculating heat transfer in a heat engine involving a monotonic gas. The main confusion lies in determining the heat along the path from A to B, particularly under the second law of thermodynamics, where no work is done. The user is unsure whether to assume the gas is monotonic or diatomic, which affects their calculations of efficiency. They present a series of equations and steps attempting to derive the efficiency, ultimately seeking clarification on whether they have missed any steps or simplifications. The thread highlights the complexities of thermodynamic calculations and the importance of clear assumptions in problem-solving.
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Homework Statement


I am having an issue trying to decipher this question, as I am not sure if it a lack of knowledge on my half or there is an assumption I have to make.

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##\epsilon=\frac{W_{total}}{Q_{in}}##

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My issue is calculating the heat along the path ##Q_{A \rightarrow B}## my confusion stem from that second law there is no working being done so then heat is equal to ##Q_{A \rightarrow B}=C_v\Delta T##.

Now in the question I have no information on if this a monotonic gas or diatomic ideal gas, if I have to make the assumption it is fine I can calculate the efficiency just fine, but I was just wondering if someone could take a look as I may have overlooked something.
 

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Just do it algebraically, and see what the efficiency looks like.

Also, does 5x higher mean 5x as high, or does it mean 6x as high?
 
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I have attempted to solve algebraically and seem to have gotten a result which, dose not simplify easily.

Here is my current working

Step 1 : What I know.

$$\Delta E_{int}=Q_in+Wd_{on} \ [1]$$

$$\Delta E_{int}=C_v n\Delta T \ [2]$$

$$\Delta Wd_{on}=-\Delta Wd_{by}=-P\Delta V \ [3]$$

In the PV diagram displayed I have three processes
  1. Isotherm path ##B \rightarrow C##
  2. Isobaric path ##C \rightarrow A##
  3. Isochoric paths ##A \rightarrow B##
Step 2 : Solving Isotherm path
$$\Delta E_{int}=0$$

$$0=Q_{in}+Wd_{on}=Q_{in}-Wd_{by}$$

$$Q_{in}=Wd_{by}=Pdv$$

$$P=\frac{nR5T_1}{V}$$

$$Qin=\int^{V_2}_{V_1} \frac{nR5T_1}{V} dv=nR5T_1 ln(\frac{V_2}{V_1})$$

finding ##\frac{V_2}{V_1}##

$$P_1V_1=nRT_1$$

$$PV_2=nR5T_1$$

$$\frac{V_2}{V_1}=5$$

therefore

$$Q_{in}=nR5ln(5)T_1=Q_H$$

Step 3 : Solving Isobaric path

$$\Delta E_{int}=Q_{in}-Wd_{by}$$

$$C_vn\Delta T=Q_{in}-P(\Delta T)$$

$$Q_{in}=C_vn\Delta T + nR\Delta T $$

$$(C_v+R)n\Delta T=Q_{in}$$

$$C_p n\Delta T = Q_{in}$$

$$\Delta T=-4T_1$$

$$Q_{in}=-4C_pnT_1$$

Step 4 : Solving Isobaric path

$$\Delta E_{int}=Q_{in}$$

$$C_v n \Delta T=Q_{in}$$

$$4C_v n T_1=Q_{in}$$

Step 5 : Solving for Efficiency

$$\epsilon = \frac{W}{Q_in}$$

As system is a complet cycle then ##\Delta E_{int}=0## therefore ##W_T=\sum Q_in##

$$\epsilon = \frac{(5ln5)R+4C_v-4C_p}{(5ln5)R+4C_v}$$

$$\frac{(5ln5)R-4R}{(5ln5)R+4C_v}=\frac{(5ln5-4)R}{(5ln5)R+4C_v}$$

And this is were I am stuck, I have I missed a step in my workings? Surley I should be able to simplyfy this into an actual percentage
 
You almost have it.

$$\frac{(5ln5)R-4R}{(5ln5)R+4C_v}=\frac{(\ln{5}-0.8)R}{(\ln{5}R+0.8C_v}=\frac{\left(1-\frac{0.8}{\ln{5}}\right)}{\left(1+\frac{0.8}{\ln{5}(\gamma-1)}\right)}$$
 
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