Eigenvalue of lowering operator

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The discussion revolves around the eigenvalues of the lowering operator in quantum mechanics, particularly focusing on the ground state and coherent states. Participants explore definitions, properties, and implications of these eigenvalues within different contexts, such as harmonic oscillators and angular momentum systems.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that the eigenvalue of the lowering operator is zero only for the ground state, citing the definition of the ground state.
  • Another participant elaborates that the ground state is defined as the state yielding zero when acted upon by the lowering operator, while noting that other eigenvectors, such as coherent states, have non-zero eigenvalues.
  • A further contribution discusses the behavior of the lowering operator in the context of harmonic oscillators, emphasizing that applying the operator repeatedly leads to the minimum energy state, which is not the same as a zero state.
  • Another viewpoint highlights that ladder operators are designed to transition between states with varying eigenvalues and that coherent states, which are eigenstates of the annihilation operator, possess complex eigenvalues.
  • Coherent states are mentioned as behaving classically and being relevant in path integrals, suggesting their significance in quantum mechanics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of eigenvalues associated with the lowering operator, particularly regarding the ground state and coherent states. No consensus is reached on the implications of these eigenvalues across different contexts.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the definition of the ground state and the concept of the vacuum state may vary across different systems, and there are unresolved aspects regarding the nature of the zero state in physical contexts.

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How to prove that eigenvalue of lowering operator is zero?
 
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Eigenvalue of lowering operator is zero only on the ground state and this is so by the definition of ground state.
For other eigenvectors of the lowering operator(coherent states), eigenvalues are non-zero.
 
Ground state or the absolute minimum state of the system is "defined" as the state which gives zero when operated by the
lowering operator.

It is easy to consider the H.OSc. and operate with the lowering operator till it gets to the min = h-bar omega/2 and if you apply furthe the lowering operator then you get zero. Of course the system maybe different in different situation and hence the minimum state may vary.

watch out that minimum state or the vacuum state is not the zero state, a zero state does not exists in nature.
The proof is kind of trival. google on Fock space and there you get your proof.
 
Ladder operators (angular momentum or harmonic oscillators for example) act on states to go from one state to another state with an increased or decreased eigenvalue up to some normalization included. They are constructed so when you act on zero you get zero because that is the vacuum state by definition.

If you are talking about an eigenvalue of the lowering operator you must consider coherent states which are constructed to be eigenstates of the annihilation operator. The eigenvalue is some complex number. Coherent states are used in path integrals. If you look at the coherent states in the harmonic oscillator, they behave the most classically in terms of minimized uncertainty.
 

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