Eigenvalue Problem Simplified: A Simple Solution to the Eigenvalue Problem

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The discussion revolves around solving an eigenvalue problem characterized by a second-order differential equation with periodic boundary conditions. The original poster seeks a simpler method for finding the eigenvalues and eigenfunctions associated with the problem.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the general solution to the differential equation and the application of boundary conditions. There are questions regarding the simplicity of proposed solutions and the necessity of demonstrating attempts to validate claims of simplicity.

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The conversation includes various attempts to solve the problem, with some participants suggesting the use of boundary conditions to determine constants. There is an acknowledgment that the original poster's solution may not be complete, as constants remain undetermined.

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Participants note the importance of boundary conditions in determining the constants in the solution, indicating that the problem may involve assumptions about the nature of the eigenvalues and eigenfunctions.

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Solve the eigenvalue problem

\frac{d^2 \phi}{dx^2} = -\lambda \phi

subject to

\phi(0) = \phi(2\pi)

and

\frac{d \phi}{dx} (0) = \frac{d \phi}{dx} (2 \pi).

I had the solution already, but am looking for a much simpler way, if any.

EDIT:

Sorry that I accidentally posted this twice; I meant to edit the post, but not sure why the edited post becomes a new one...
 
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How do we know that our suggested solution is simpler than yours if you don't demonstrate your attempt?
 
Here's what I had:

after solving the ODE, we have the general solution

\phi = C_1 \sin(\sqrt{\lambda}x) + C_2 \cos(\sqrt{\lambda}x)

applying the conditions we have the system

C_2 = C_1 \sin(\sqrt{\lambda}2\pi) + C_2 \cos(\sqrt{\lambda}2\pi)

C_1 \sqrt{\lambda} = C_1 \sqrt{\lambda} \cos(\sqrt{\lambda}2\pi) - C_2 \sqrt{\lambda} \sin(\sqrt{\lambda}2\pi)

then using a little knowledge of linear algebra and determinant, we get, in order not to have trivial solutions,

C_1 C_2 u^2 + C_1 C_2 (v-1)^2 = 0

where u = \sin(\sqrt{\lambda}2\pi) and
v = \cos(\sqrt{\lambda}2\pi)

or simply

u^2 + (v-1)^2 = 0

So u^2 = (v-1)^2 = 0 or
u = 0; v = 1

\sqrt{\lambda_n}2\pi = 2n\pi
\lambda_n = n^2

So the eigenfunction is

\phi_n = C_1 \sin(nx) + C_2 \cos(nx)

I don't think this is complete because we haven't determined C_1 and C_2 yet.
 
Use the BC's to get your constants.
 
dirk_mec1 said:
Use the BC's to get your constants.

I thought that I've already used them in first determining the eigenvalue.
 
anyone?
 

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