Einstein Tensor and Stress Energy Tensor of Scalar Field

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the Einstein Tensor and the Stress-Energy Tensor of a Scalar Field. Participants explore whether the similarities in their mathematical forms indicate a deeper connection or if it is merely coincidental. The scope includes theoretical considerations and mathematical reasoning.

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  • One participant suggests that the similarity in form between the Einstein Tensor and the Stress-Energy Tensor of a Scalar Field is self-evident, implying no significant implications.
  • Another participant challenges the identification of the tensor, stating that the referenced tensor is the Ricci Tensor, not the Einstein Tensor.
  • A later reply clarifies the distinction between the Einstein Tensor and the Ricci Tensor, providing the definition of the Einstein Tensor and its relation to the Stress-Energy Tensor through the Einstein Field Equation.
  • There is a question about the specific form of the Stress-Energy Tensor of a Scalar Field, with one participant expressing uncertainty about the source of a proposed equation.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the identification of the tensors involved and the implications of their mathematical forms. The discussion remains unresolved, with competing views on the nature of the relationship between the tensors.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the tensors and the specific forms of the Stress-Energy Tensor being referenced. The discussion also highlights the dependence on definitions and the context of the equations presented.

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What is the connection, if any, between the Einstein Tensor and the Stress-Energy Tensor of a Scalar Field ?
Hi All.

Given that we may write

Equation1.png


And that the Stress-Energy Tensor of a Scalar Field may be written as;

Equation 2.png

These two Equations seem to have a similar form.

Is this what would be expected or is it just coincidence?

Thanks in advance
 
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OK I think this is self evident. All we are saying is that the right side of the first Equation = the right side of the second equation. Nothing sinister.

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Thats not even the Einstein Tensor that's the Ricci Tensor.
 
Phinrich said:
Summary: What is the connection, if any, between the Einstein Tensor and the Stress-Energy Tensor of a Scalar Field ?

The fact that the Einstein tensor equals the Stress-Energy tensor (times a constant that depends on your choice of units) according to the Einstein Field Equation. (This is true for any stress-energy tensor, not just the stress-energy tensor of a scalar field.)

However, as has been pointed out, ##R_{\mu \nu}## is not the Einstein tensor, it's the Ricci tensor. The Einstein tensor is

$$
G_{\mu \nu} = R_{\mu \nu} - \frac{1}{2} g_{\mu \nu} R^\alpha{}_\alpha
$$

And the Einstein Field Equation is just ##G_{\mu \nu} = 8 \pi T_{\mu \nu}## (in natural units where ##G = c = 1##). The equation in the Ricci tensor that you derived is obtained by "trace reversing" the Einstein Field Equation--taking the trace of the EFE to obtain ##- R^\alpha{}_\alpha = 8 \pi T^\alpha{}_\alpha## and then rearranging terms to put the trace on the RHS.

The specific form of ##T_{\mu \nu}## depends on the kind of matter and energy that are present.

Phinrich said:
the Stress-Energy Tensor of a Scalar Field may be written as

Where are you getting that from? It doesn't look like the SET of a scalar field that I'm familiar with.
 

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