Elastic scattering of neutrons with hydrogen

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The discussion centers on the phenomenon of elastic scattering of neutrons with hydrogen, particularly in the context of nuclear engineering. Participants explore the energy transfer during neutron collisions with hydrogen nuclei and the subsequent effects on hydrogen atoms, including ionization processes and the formation of deuterium.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses curiosity about the elastic scattering of neutrons and how they lose energy in collisions with hydrogen nuclei, noting that a neutron can lose a significant fraction of its energy in a single collision.
  • Another participant explains that when a neutron collides with a proton, it can lead to the formation of a deuteron if the neutron is absorbed, while also mentioning that head-on collisions are rare.
  • A question is raised regarding whether protons can ionize atoms, with a focus on the ionization process being related to the interaction of charged particles with atomic electrons.
  • It is noted that protons, along with other charged particles, can cause significant ionization in materials, and that protons may eventually recombine with electrons to form hydrogen atoms or participate in other chemical processes.

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Participants generally agree on the basic principles of neutron scattering and ionization, but there are nuances regarding the specifics of energy transfer and the ionization process that remain open for further clarification and exploration.

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The discussion includes assumptions about collision dynamics and the behavior of particles in various materials, which may not be fully resolved. The exact conditions under which these interactions occur, such as the energy levels of neutrons and the nature of the collisions, are not explicitly detailed.

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This discussion may be of interest to students and professionals in nuclear engineering, physics, and materials science, particularly those exploring neutron interactions and ionization processes in low atomic mass materials.

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I am new to nuclear engg., i want to know the phenomenon of elastic scattering of neutrons.

Resources available in the net suggest that in materials containing atoms of low atomic mass(hydrogen), neutrons of all energies can lose a significant fraction of their energy in a single elastic collision. As i understand, collision of a neutron, which has mass of 1, with a 1H nucleus could result in the neutron losing virtually all of its energy in a single head-on collision.

Here i want to know what happens to hydrogen which absorbs neutron energy. please clarify.
If there are any related links pls let me know..

Thank you.
 
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sm.malkapur said:
I am new to nuclear engg., i want to know the phenomenon of elastic scattering of neutrons.

Resources available in the net suggest that in materials containing atoms of low atomic mass(hydrogen), neutrons of all energies can lose a significant fraction of their energy in a single elastic collision. As i understand, collision of a neutron, which has mass of 1, with a 1H nucleus could result in the neutron losing virtually all of its energy in a single head-on collision.

Here i want to know what happens to hydrogen which absorbs neutron energy. please clarify.
If there are any related links pls let me know..

Thank you.
If a particle strikes another particle of approximately the same mass, then the target particle could absorb most of the energy (kinetic) and momentum and move off. In the case of a proton (nucleus of a hydrogen atom), it would simple travel and ionize the atoms in the medium through which it travels.

An example of elastic collision between objects of the same or similar mass.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/colsta.html#c2

If a proton combines with (absorbs) a neutron, it forms a deuteron (the nucleus of a deuterium atom).

It would be rare to have an exact head on collision. In most cases, it is a glancing collision, so the neutron loses some, but not all, energy.
 
do protons also ionise atoms..?
Thank you for ur quick reply Mr. Astronuc.
Here i did not understand the following part of ur reply " In the case of a proton (nucleus of a hydrogen atom), it would simple travel and ionize the atoms in the medium through which it travels".
As i know the ionisation process is by loss or gain of "electrons", do protons also ionise atoms..?
If we take a unit mass of a hydrogenous material (polyethylene), and assume collision was with a particular hydrogen nucleus, would this travel in this mass and tries to ionise the atoms/molecules.?
 
sm.malkapur said:
do protons also ionise atoms..?
Thank you for your quick reply Mr. Astronuc.
Here i did not understand the following part of your reply " In the case of a proton (nucleus of a hydrogen atom), it would simple travel and ionize the atoms in the medium through which it travels".
As i know the ionisation process is by loss or gain of "electrons", do protons also ionise atoms..?
If we take a unit mass of a hydrogenous material (polyethylene), and assume collision was with a particular hydrogen nucleus, would this travel in this mass and tries to ionise the atoms/molecules.?
Charged particles interact with atomic electrons in the medium through which they travel. Protons, alpha particles, beta particles (electrons and positrons) cause significant ionization. Photons (X-rays and gamma rays) also ionize atoms through the Compton (scattering) and photoelectric effects.

At some point, the proton would sufficiently slow down and recombine with an electron to form a hydrogen atom. It could become part of an organic molecule or a hydride in a metal, or part of a hydroxyl ion if it enounters an oxygen atom.

In most cases, ions recombine with electrons.
 
Thank you Mr. Astronuc,

discussion with you was great and has cleared lot of my doubts.
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Santhosh Malkapur
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