Is the Angle Between Scattered Neutron and Recoiling Proton Always 90 Degrees?

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The discussion revolves around the scattering of neutrons from hydrogen, specifically questioning whether the angle between the velocities of the scattered neutron and the recoiling proton is always 90 degrees. The context involves concepts from classical mechanics and the nature of collisions, particularly elastic versus inelastic collisions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the conditions under which the angle is 90 degrees, questioning the assumption of elastic collisions and the implications of inelastic collisions. Other participants discuss the consequences of inelastic scattering and the potential for energy loss in the context of particle physics.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have confirmed the original poster's thoughts regarding the nature of collisions, while others have introduced additional considerations about particle interactions at a sub-nuclear level.

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Participants note the complexity of the topic, particularly regarding the definitions of elastic and inelastic collisions and the implications of particle excitation. There is acknowledgment of the limitations of knowledge regarding sub-nuclear physics among some participants.

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Homework Statement


Show that when a neutron is scattered from hydrogen, the angle between the laboratory velocities of the scattered neutron and the recoiling proton is always 90°.

Homework Equations


Conservation of momentum
(Conservation of Energy)

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This isn't a difficult exercise if the collision is assumed to be elastic. In that case straight classical mechanics equations lead to the result. But is this kind of collision always elastic? I mean a neutron hits a proton... It should be elastic after all if you do not go into sub-nuclear physics... If the collision were not to be considered elastic, could I still show the thesis ? I don't think so, but I'm not 100% sure...

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Ric
 
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If the collision is not elastic it is not true any more - but then you produce new particles or the proton or neutron become something else and asking for the angle becomes meaningless.
 
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As I thought, thanks for confirming.

Anyway I know nothing about "sub"-nuclear physics, but I recall that a neutron and a proton are made of quarks. Is it possible that some of the energy of the collision is lost to "excite" a quark above its ground state? (I don't even know if quarks have energy states so... This is just for fun). If such a thing is possible then I would still have the same two particles, but an inelastic scattering may occur.
 
If you excite one of the particles it is an inelastic process and you get different hadrons. They have different names, although that is just a convention. PDG has a list (not a full list, these are just hadrons with up and down quarks only).
 
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Good to know. Thank you! :)
 

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