Elastically anisotropic sphere under pressure

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a sphere made from elastically anisotropic materials, particularly those with cubic symmetry, when subjected to hydrostatic pressure. Participants explore whether such a sphere retains its spherical shape or undergoes deformation, considering various material symmetries and their implications on stress and strain responses.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether a sphere made of an elastically anisotropic material retains its shape under hydrostatic pressure, specifically focusing on cubic symmetry.
  • Others argue that cubic symmetry is still isotropic, while lower symmetries, such as orthorhombic, will lead to deformation.
  • It is noted that cubic materials have three independent elastic constants, leading to directional differences in stiffness, which complicates the notion of isotropy.
  • Some participants assert that the symmetries of the fourth order tensor for cubic symmetry imply that the resulting strain tensor must be isotropic if the stress tensor is isotropic, suggesting that the material would deform isotropically under hydrostatic pressure.
  • There is a discussion about orthotropic materials, where it is proposed that such materials would deform into an ellipsoid, with the axes of the ellipsoid aligned with the material's symmetry axes.
  • One participant clarifies that Silver, having a cubic crystal lattice, would not deform into an ellipsoid under hydrostatic pressure, contradicting the earlier point about orthotropic materials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether a sphere made of cubic symmetric material retains its shape under pressure, with some asserting it does and others suggesting deformation occurs in materials with lower symmetries. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of different material symmetries on deformation.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of the relationship between material symmetry and deformation under pressure, with various assumptions about isotropy and the behavior of stress and strain tensors. Limitations in understanding the implications of these symmetries on deformation are noted.

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Does a sphere made of an elastically anisotropic material (eg. a material of cubic symmetry) subject to an hydrostatic pressure retains its spherical shape ?
 
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cubic symmetry is still isotropic, but for lower symmetries (like, e.g., orthorhombic), the pressure will lead to a deformation of the sphere.
 
DrDu said:
cubic symmetry is still isotropic, but for lower symmetries (like, e.g., orthorhombic), the pressure will lead to a deformation of the sphere.

How a cubic symmetric is isotropic ?
In the cubic symmetry there are three independent elastic constants, s_11, s_12 and s44. In a cubic crystal structure there are directions along which the material is softer and others along which is is stiffer. For instance, Silver, which has an fcc structure has a Young modulus of 94 GPa along (110), whereas along (100) it is 50 GPa.
 
camilo said:
How a cubic symmetric is isotropic ?
In the cubic symmetry there are three independent elastic constants, s_11, s_12 and s44. In a cubic crystal structure there are directions along which the material is softer and others along which is is stiffer. For instance, Silver, which has an fcc structure has a Young modulus of 94 GPa along (110), whereas along (100) it is 50 GPa.
Sorry, I had optical properties in mind. As the constitutive stress strain equation involves a fourth order tensor (as opposed to the second order dielectric tensor), a cubic material will not behave isotropically.
 
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That being said, the symmetries of the fourth order tensor for cubic symmetry are such that the resulting strain tensor must be isotropic if the stress tensor is, which is the case when you subject an object to hydrostatic pressure. As such, the material with cubic symmetry would deform isotropically.
 
Orodruin said:
That being said, the symmetries of the fourth order tensor for cubic symmetry are such that the resulting strain tensor must be isotropic if the stress tensor is, which is the case when you subject an object to hydrostatic pressure. As such, the material with cubic symmetry would deform isotropically.
So it would retain its spherical shape ?
 
If the lattice is cubic, yes. If it has other types of symmetries, not necessarily.
 
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Just did a bit of reading. I think the situation is much more easy in orthotropic materials. The Voigt vector of stresses is proportional to (1,1,1,0,0,0) for isotropic pressure. In orthoscopic materials, the stiffness tensor is 3x3 block diagonal in a certain basis, so that the strain vector will be of the form (a,b,c,0,0,0). I.e. the sphere will be deformed into an ellipsoid with their main axes are the symmetry axes of the material.
 
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DrDu said:
I.e. the sphere will be deformed into an ellipsoid with their main axes are the symmetry axes of the material.

So a sphere made of silver, subject to a hydrostatic pressure, will deform into an ellipsoid?

Thanks.
 
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As Orodruin pointed out already, Silver having a cubic crystal lattice, it won't deform into an ellipsoid under hydrostatic pressure.
 
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