Electric field and electric charge inside the Earth?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of electric charge and electric fields within the Earth, particularly in relation to its properties as a conductor. Participants explore the implications of charge distribution in conductors, comparing idealized models with the complexities of the Earth's internal structure.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that, like a conductor, charge resides on the surface of the Earth, suggesting that there is no charge or electric field inside the Earth.
  • Another participant counters that while the electric field may be close to zero inside the Earth, it cannot be exactly zero due to the presence of a magnetic field generated by circulating charges in the molten core.
  • A third participant highlights a perceived contradiction between the behavior of metal conductors and the Earth, questioning why charge does not behave the same way in both cases.
  • A later reply argues that the situation is not contradictory but rather complex, noting that the Earth contains various materials, some of which are conducting and some not, and that internal movements and properties like piezoelectricity contribute to the overall charge distribution.
  • This participant emphasizes that while local regions inside the Earth may have approximately zero internal charge, they are not ideal conductors, and real-life scenarios often deviate from theoretical models.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the behavior of electric charge inside the Earth, with no consensus reached on whether the internal electric field can be considered exactly zero or not. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these differing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the limitations of applying idealized theoretical concepts to the complexities of real-world materials and conditions within the Earth, which may lead to confusion and apparent contradictions.

Hardik Batra
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As we know, If you put charge on conductor then all the charge reside on the surface of the conductor and charge inside the conductor is zero and electric field is also zero.

Earth is also a good conductor. So the charge resides on the Earth surface?
Is there no charge inside the earth?
And Electric field is zero inside the earth?
 
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Close to zero maybe, but not exactly zero. Earth has a magnetic field that is generated by the circulation of charges deep inside the liquid molten core. The existence of that magnetic field tells us that the charges must be nonzero.

Read about the geodynamo on wikipedia.
 
anorlunda said:
Close to zero maybe, but not exactly zero.
So there is contradiction between metal conductor and Earth conductor.
Because it is zero in metal but not in Earth but both are good conductor.

And the property of the conductor says that charge always resides on the surface of the conductor but it is not happen in case of earth.
Then how to understand this.
 
It is not a contradiction. It is a question of complexity. A conducting metal sphere (including Earth) has zero internal fields. However the Earth has many internal materials, some conducting , some not. The materials move. Some have piezoelectric properties.

The total internal charge of a local region inside the Earth is thus approximately zero but not exactly zero. You could also say that most .ocal regions are approximately conductors.

Whenever you mix up idealized theoretical concepts with real life, you risk confusing yourself with apparent contradictions that are not real. Few things in real life are ideal or pure.
 
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