Electric Field Calculation for Volume and Surface Charges?

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The discussion focuses on the challenges of calculating electric fields from volume and surface charges using Coulomb's law, as opposed to Gauss' law. Key questions include the placement of r^2 in the integral and the necessity of the unit vector in calculations. It is emphasized that the electric field due to infinitesimal charge elements varies with spatial coordinates, which complicates integration. Participants suggest posting specific integration attempts in the homework section for feedback. The thread concludes with a reminder to seek clarification on calculations to resolve misunderstandings.
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Hello,

I know you can use Gauss' law to calculate the electric field of volume and surface charges but i cannot figure out a way to do it using Coloumb's law. I have several questions about this: when you integrate the charge density in Coloumb's law over the volume is the r^2 inside or outside the integral? is the unit vector necessary to calculate within the integral or is it allowed to drop the unit vector and obtain a scalar equation for the electric field's magnitude? Lastly, when I calculate the electric field of volume charges, i notice that after I integrate, I lose spatial coordinates with which to calculate the electric field at certain points in space.

I am sorry for the long post but I have been struggling with this for sometime.
 
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In Gauss' law the electric field in a certain point in space is a superposition from electric field due to infinitesimal charge element, The E field due to single element is the same as that due to a point charge ##k\frac{q}{r^2} \hat{\mathbf{r}}## - different charge element will have different ##r## and ##\hat{\mathbf{r}}##. This means, they are dependent on the variable of integration and hence cannot be taken outside the integral.
timothy ser said:
Lastly, when I calculate the electric field of volume charges, i notice that after I integrate, I lose spatial coordinates with which to calculate the electric field at certain points in space.
That cannot be true, you should check again your calculation.
 
Can somebody due an example with both Gauss' law and Coloumb's law?
 
Choose an example that you tried to do, preferably one that you already know the answer for, from Gauss's law or otherwise. Write up your attempt at integrating Coulomb's law for it, and post it in the homework section (even though it's not a class assignment). Then people can tell you what you did wrong and give hints on how to proceed.

https://www.physicsforums.com/forums/advanced-physics-homework.154/
 
thank you
 
jtbell said:
Write up your attempt at integrating Coulomb's law for it, and post it in the homework section (even though it's not a class assignment). Then people can tell you what you did wrong and give hints on how to proceed.

Seconded. Thread locked.
 
It may be shown from the equations of electromagnetism, by James Clerk Maxwell in the 1860’s, that the speed of light in the vacuum of free space is related to electric permittivity (ϵ) and magnetic permeability (μ) by the equation: c=1/√( μ ϵ ) . This value is a constant for the vacuum of free space and is independent of the motion of the observer. It was this fact, in part, that led Albert Einstein to Special Relativity.

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