Electric Field due to a Dipole (not on a z-axis)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field due to an electric dipole at a point P, located at a distance much greater than the separation distance of the dipole. The problem involves understanding the behavior of electric fields generated by dipoles and the geometric considerations involved in their calculation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the use of angles to express components of the electric field, with one suggesting the introduction of an angle theta to aid in the calculation. There is a discussion about the contributions of the electric field vectors from the dipole's charges and how they interact in different directions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the problem by suggesting the use of trigonometric relationships and the cancellation of components. There appears to be a divergence in understanding regarding the addition of components, particularly in the y-direction, indicating that multiple interpretations are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note constraints related to the problem being part of an online homework platform, which may limit the ability to define variables explicitly. There is also mention of the need for estimations in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


The figure shows an electric dipole. What is the magnitude of the dipole's electric field at point P, located at distance r >> d?

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I suppose I could define the angle with which I could write Ey = Esin\theta, but this problem is a webassign.com problem, so it's online and I can't define anything.

The magnitude of the electric field at p due to the dipole would be very small, and I first estimated it to be zero (since the problem asks for an estimation anyway).

Without defining and using a theta, how could I represent the magnitude of the electric field?
 
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Just introduce theta temporarily. It goes away in the end since you know what it is.

The electric field vectors of the two charges add in the y direction and cancel in the x direction. Hence
<br /> |\vec E| = |E_y| = (2 q/R) \sin(\theta)<br />
where I will let you write down R and \sin(\theta) in terms of r and d.

The rest you can do.
 
loveequation said:
Just introduce theta temporarily. It goes away in the end since you know what it is.

The electric field vectors of the two charges add in the y direction and cancel in the x direction. Hence
<br /> |\vec E| = |E_y| = (2 q/R) \sin(\theta)<br />
where I will let you write down R and \sin(\theta) in terms of r and d.

The rest you can do.
In the dipole one is +ve charge and the other -ve charge.
The electric field E = 1/4πεο*q/[r2 + (d/2)2]
Their y-components cancel out and x-components add.
 
I maintain that the y components add. Think of the magnetic field lines of the Earth at the equator.
 

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