Electric field due to a flat circular disk

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric field at a distance z above the center of a flat circular disk of radius R. The initial approach involved using a line integral from the center to the edge, which was deemed incorrect. Instead, the correct method involves performing a surface integral to account for the contributions from all points on the disk, particularly emphasizing the need to integrate in the radial direction. The integration should consider the symmetry of the disk and the varying density of charge distribution across its area.

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Homework Statement


Find the electric field at a distance z above the center of a flat circular disk of radius R

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My attempt to solve this was take the line integral from the center of the circle to the edge. Then, knowing the circle is symmetrical, multiply it by 2*π*r to get the entire circle. 2πr of my line charges make a circle.
that approach worked when finding the electric field due to a ring. In which case I found the field due to a point charge, and multiplied it by the circumference because 2*π*r of the points made the ring. so 2*π*r of the lines should make the area...

but I am not getting the correct answer. On Chegg, They found the an equation for a ring (with radius dr) and integrated. I definitely see how that approach should work, it is the same idea as mine but in reverse (sort of).

My questions is: is my approach wrong? or am I making a mistake in my work?
 
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I am not sure what you mean by line integral. You need to do a surface integral. Are you saying that you calculated the contribution to the z-component of the field from a pie-shaped piece of angle Δφ? If that's what you did, and did correctly, it should work because all you have to do is set Δφ = 2π.
 
kuruman said:
I am not sure what you mean by line integral. You need to do a surface integral. Are you saying that you calculated the contribution to the z-component of the field from a pie-shaped piece of angle Δφ? If that's what you did, and did correctly, it should work because all you have to do is set Δφ = 2π.

when I did the field due to a ring, I found the E field due to a point and then multiplied it by the circumference.

I tried to do the same thing with the disk, except instead of a the E field from a point at the edge, I found the E field from all the points between the center and the edge in a straight line. Then I multiplied that line by 2πr

but what I am thinking now is that this approach would probably overcount the area of the circle. as there are less points closer to the center of the circle than the outer circle.
 
grandpa2390 said:
when I did the field due to a ring, I found the E field due to a point and then multiplied it by the circumference.
That does not work, unless you mean that you found the z component of the E field due to a point.

grandpa2390 said:
this approach would probably overcount the area of the circle. as there are less points closer to the center of the circle than the outer circle.
Quite so. And it is not just a question of overcounting the area as a whole, but of biasing towards the contribution from the central parts.

Having found the field due to a ring, integrate in the radial direction.
 

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