Electric field in the center of an arc

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The problem involves calculating the electric field at the center of an arc formed by a uniformly charged conductor wire. The arc has a radius R and an amplitude of 2A, where A is a specified value between 0 and π. Participants are exploring the implications of charge distribution and vector integration in the context of electric fields.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the electric field using charge density and integration, but expresses uncertainty about the integration limits and the approach taken. Some participants question the treatment of the electric field as a vector and suggest considering the integration of vector components. Others propose starting from a different perspective, such as analyzing the symmetry of the arc.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing various insights and suggestions for reevaluating the approach. There is no explicit consensus on the method to be used, and multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the integration of vectors and the implications of symmetry in the electric field produced by the arc. There is a mention of the need to consider the angle of the arc and how it affects the electric field calculation.

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Homework Statement



Consider a conductor wire with a charge Q uniformly distributed, shaped in the form of an arc of radius R and amplitude 2A (were A is a given number between 0 and π).

Find the value of the electric field in the center of the arc.

Homework Equations



##E(P)= \int K_e (dq/r^2)##

Where ##K_e## is the electrostatic constant[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


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Since the charge is uniformly distributed I'm considering the charge density as λ= Q/L thus Q= λL, where L = 2A. The point P is the center of the arc.

So the integral becomes

##E(P)= \int K_e (λL/R^2)##

Getting out the constants, integrating on dL and selecting the limits 0 - L=2A

##E(P)= K_e λ/R^2 \int_0^L LdL##

And solving:

##E(P)= 2A K_e λ / R^2##

However, if I leave it in terms of Q and Pi, the expression oversimplifies and the term 2A goes away

##E(P)= 2A Q / 4πε_0 R^2 2A ## ## =Q/4πε_0 R^2##

So I got the serious feeling I'm getting something wrong here. Perhaps integrate in terms of the angle?

Any advise would be appreciated


 
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SetepenSeth said:
where L = 2A
What about R?
SetepenSeth said:
So the integral becomes
##E(P)= \int K_e (λL/R^2)##
E is a vector. You need to integrate it as such. An integral is a sum. How do you add vectors?
 
I think I'll start from scratch cause I don't follow
 
SetepenSeth said:
I think I'll start from scratch cause I don't follow
For example, consider the case where the arc goes through 180 degrees. The field at the centre from the charge at one end of the arc is equal and opposite to that from the charge at the other end of the arc, so those cancel.
Choose a coordinate system and write the field as components in that system. You can then integrate each component separately.
 

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