Electric Field of a circular arc at a point

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The discussion centers on calculating the electric field at the origin due to a circular arc wire with radius 'r' and linear charge density λ. The user initially approaches the problem using a small segment dy, leading to the expression dE = (kλ cosθ dy)/r². However, the textbook solution utilizes the arc length element ds = r dθ, resulting in dE = (kλ cosθ dθ)/r, which yields a different answer. The discrepancy arises from the misunderstanding of the relationship between dy and ds, emphasizing the importance of using the correct differential element in electric field calculations.

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Homework Statement


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Given that the circular arc wire with radius 'r' has a linear charge density ##\lambda##. What is the Electric field at the origin?

Homework Equations


##\vec{E}=\frac{kq}{r^2}## where ##k=9\times10^9## is a constant.

3. The Attempt at a Solution

I took a small segment dy ##\theta## above the x-axis with charge ##dq=\lambda dy##. Therefore ##d\vec{E}=\frac{k\lambda cos\theta dy}{r^2}## as all other charges along the y-axis cancel out each other.

Now ##cos\theta=\frac{x}{r}##. And ##x^2+y^2=r^2## is the equation of the arc.
Therefore ##cos\theta=\frac{\sqrt{r^2-y^2}}{r}##. And then proceeding to integrate ##d\vec{E}=\frac{k\lambda \sqrt{r^2-y^2} dy}{r^3}## and arrive at an answer.

But my text tackles the question the same way until, at a point it takes ##dy=rd\theta## and then substitutes and integrates ##d\vec{E}=\frac{k\lambda cos\theta d\theta}{r}## and arriving at an answer. But my answer differs from the one arrived by my textbook. Am I wrong somewhere?
 
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##dq=\lambda dy## would mean every "step" dy gives the same charge, and equivalently the same length of the wire. This is not true.
 
mfb said:
##dq=\lambda dy## would mean every "step" dy gives the same charge, and equivalently the same length of the wire. This is not true.
mfb : That is the condition given in the question. Moreover my text starts the solution in the same way. (The wire is uniformly charged)
 
Use symmetry to conclude what about the y component of E at the origin?
For the x component, dEx = k cosθ dq/R2 should be apparent.
What is dq in terms of arc length ds?
Go that way & you will wind up agreeing with your textbook.

As mfb implied, dy = R dθ is incorrect. R dθ is an element of arc length ds, not an element of distance along the y axis.
 

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