Electric forces and Electric fields question on x and y components

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The discussion revolves around understanding electric forces and fields, specifically focusing on the components of tension in relation to angles in a physics problem. Participants are examining the definitions and applications of trigonometric functions in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the labeling of components as x or y, particularly regarding the vertical component of tension. There is confusion about the use of cosine and sine in relation to the axes.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and the definitions of components. Some guidance has been offered regarding the trigonometric definitions, but no consensus has been reached on the labeling of components.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion stemming from traditional teaching methods regarding the assignment of x and y components, which may not align with the current problem setup. Participants are reflecting on their understanding of these conventions.

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please see the pictures!

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F=k(q1)(q2)/r^2



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okay, I am just curious as to why t cos theta and mg are x components when they are clearly on the y axix!
I thought you used cos for x components and sin for y components
 

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guys I know I am a DA, i barely got by in physics I and I was able to get by without knowing how to do these type of problems, now I can't please help!
 
The cosine of theta is the adjacent side of the triangle divided by the hypotenuse. With theta defined to be where it is in this problem, T cos theta is the vertical component of the tension.
 
mattmro said:
okay, I am just curious as to why t cos theta and mg are x components when they are clearly on the y axix!
I thought you used cos for x components and sin for y components
Where is it written that they are on X axis ... looks on Y to me
Maybe they took X as Y and Y as X

mikelepore said:
The cosine of theta is the adjacent side of the triangle divided by the hypotenuse. With theta defined to be where it is in this problem, T cos theta is the vertical component of the tension.
OP's asking why the vertical component is called X component
read question again
 
cupid.callin said:
OP's asking why the vertical component is called X component
read question again

I already read the question and the images about ten times before answering. It sounds to me like a teacher may have pounded it into the student's head that x means horizontal and then always take the cos, y means vertical and then always take the sin. I have heard some teachers say that, although it is wrong. The cure for the confusion is to identify the triangle and remember the "sohcahtoa" definitions of sin and cos.
 

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