Electric kettle that shuts off when boiling

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mechanisms by which electric kettles automatically shut off when the water reaches boiling point. Participants explore various theories and technologies that could be responsible for this feature, including pressure sensors, bimetallic switches, and timers, while considering factors such as altitude and safety mechanisms.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a pressure sensor detects the change when water boils, while others suggest a sensitive switch activated by steam.
  • There is a mention of a bimetallic switch being commonly used, which bends in response to steam heat to cut off electricity.
  • One participant notes that boiling point varies with altitude, raising questions about the effectiveness of a thermostat in different regions.
  • Some participants speculate that a timer could be used to shut off the kettle after a set period, but this raises concerns about its reliability at higher altitudes.
  • Another theory suggests that the kettle might monitor temperature rise and shut off when the temperature change (delta-T) reaches zero.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety mechanisms in place, such as overtemp fuses and dry pot sensors, to prevent overheating.
  • Participants share personal experiences with their kettles, noting variations in how and when they shut off.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the mechanisms of kettle shut-off, with no consensus reached on a single explanation. Various theories are presented and discussed, reflecting uncertainty and differing opinions.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the boiling point of water can change with altitude, which complicates the design of automatic shut-off mechanisms. There are also unresolved questions about the specific technologies used in different kettle models.

  • #31


Maybe it contains a vibration sensor, the thing does rumble a bit when the water boils. That or the pressure sensor gets my vote. It also has to have by law I think, an over temp switch, the bimetallic unit already mentioned. When that switch heats up too much due to low water, the energy flowing inside the switch causes it to bend when passing a certain temperature, say 120 degrees C, which would never happen if there was water inside, then it bends away from a contact opening the circuit. The best way would be to have a manual reset so a person interacts with it in such a way as it doesn't just recycle itself off and on if left both plugged in with no water and unattended. A simple bi-metallic switch is not smart enough by itself to keep it from just cycling off and on indefinitely when unattended. But if it activates a second circuit that totally shuts down the system, it would never come on again unless you hit a reset button. That keeps people from getting burned or starting fires.
 
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edward said:
Wiki says that they use a bi-metalic switch that bends and cuts off the electricity when the steam warms it up. That explains lisa's double click.

i guess this means there's a lot more heat transferred from steam at the same temperature for this to work. my thermodynamics is pretty rusty, and i never liked it to begin with.

lisab said:
Final temp - initial temp, often you'll see it like Tf - Ti

more or less. but I'm thinking more in terms of something that moves with time, so that you look at the slope of the T(t) curve.
so like delta_T = T(t2) -T(t1).

but it sounds like edward dug up the right answer. it'd be simple, cheap, and durable.
 

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