Electric, magnetic, and electromagnetic fields

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Electric, magnetic, and electromagnetic fields are interrelated but distinct concepts in physics. The electric field is represented as a three-dimensional vector, while the magnetic field is also a three-dimensional vector, and the electromagnetic field combines both into a two-form with six components. The relationship between these fields can be understood through the effects of special relativity, where the motion of charged particles influences the observed electric and magnetic fields. Classical physics treats magnetic and electric fields as separate entities, but they are fundamentally manifestations of the same underlying interactions. Understanding these fields is essential for comprehending electromagnetic phenomena and their mathematical descriptions.
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What are the differences between these three types of fields or are they all interrelated and the same.
 
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just to add, explicitly, that the classical magnetic interaction can be understood as a manifestation of only the electrostatic interaction but with the effects of (special) relativity taken into consideration. i.e. the magnetic field and resulting force on charged particles is essentially nothing new or different than the electric field. but, in classical physics (where there is no SR concepts such as time dilation, etc.), the magnetic field has to be described or modeled as a different or separate action than the electrostatic field.
 
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holtvg said:
What are the differences between these three types of fields or are they all interrelated and the same.

Hi holtvg! Welcome to PF! :smile:

Electric field: a 3-vector: (Ex, Ey, Ez)

Magnetic field: a 3-vector: (Bx, By, Bz)

Electromagnetic field: a 2-form (with 6 components): (Ex, Ey, Ez;Bx, By, Bz)

They are interrelated in the same way that the x and y components of a vector are interrelated … if you rotate the x and y axes, the x and y components of the same vector get mixed together a little.

Similarly, observers with different velocities see the E and B fields mixed together … for example, a stationary electron has an E field and a zero B field, but a moving electron has slightly different E field, and a small B field also. :smile:

(this is not a relativity thing … Maxwell knew all about it!)
 


tiny-tim said:
Electric field: a 3-vector: (Ex, Ey, Ez)

Magnetic field: a 3-vector: (Bx, By, Bz)

Electromagnetic field: a 2-form (with 6 components): (Ex, Ey, Ez;Bx, By, Bz)

a tensor?
 
granpa said:
a tensor?

Hi granpa! :smile:

Yes, any 2-form can be represented by an antisymmetric second-order tensor.

But a 2-form is easier because:

i] it has only 6 components, while the tensor has 16 components, 4 of which are 0, and 6 of the remaining 12 are minus the other 6;

ii] it makes many equations much more obvious (in partiuclar, Lorentz force and Maxwell's equations). :smile:
 
sort of like a pseudovector. a shorthand way of writing a tensor.
 
Hi granpa! :smile:
granpa said:
sort of like a pseudovector. a shorthand way of writing a tensor.

Yes, a pseudovector in 3-space (like angular momentum, or any other cross-product of two 3-vectors) is a 2-form , and can be represented as an anti-symmetric tensor. :smile:

(though a pseudovector in 4-space is a 3-form, like current :wink:)
 
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