Electric, magnetic fields and induced currents

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Changing magnetic fields induce currents in conductors, leading to electron movement. The discussion explores whether this process involves two steps (changing magnetic field directly inducing current) or three steps (changing magnetic field first creating a changing electric field, which then induces current). It is noted that a changing magnetic field can produce either a static or dynamic electric field, depending on the rate of change. The relationship between changing electric and magnetic fields is emphasized, but clarity on the exact sequence of events remains uncertain. The thread seeks further insights into this fundamental concept of electromagnetism.
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Hi,

I've been trying to figure several simple things about electric and magnetic fields, their relationship with current.
If you could please help me understanding this, it would be really helpful.

From what I've read these were presented as natural laws:
1. Changing magnetic field induces current in a conductor, causes electrons to move in other words.
2. Changing magnetic field creates changing electric field.
3. Changing electric field creates changing magnetic field.

Got several questions. One question is, does changing magnetic field induce current (move electrons) by first creating changing electric field ? I am trying to figure out if there are 2 or 3 steps in the process.

(1)Changing magnetic field -> (2)changing electric field -> (3)moving electrons
or is it
(1)Changing magnetic field -> (2)moving electrons ?

I can think of first option with 3 steps (changing magnetic field->electric field->current) as electric field exerting forces on charges (electrons), hence their movement. On the other hand if there are only 2 steps (changing magnetic field->current), how does that work...because for charges to move there must be an electric field, what causes charges to move otherwise ? individual magnetic fields of electrons ?
 
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Wston said:
1. Changing magnetic field induces current in a conductor, causes electrons to move in other words.
2. Changing magnetic field creates changing electric field.
3. Changing electric field creates changing magnetic field.

1 is correct, but 2 and 3 are not entirely correct. A changing magnetic field can produce either a static or dynamic (changing) magnetic field. If the rate of change of the magnetic field is constant, then the electric field produced is constant. Otherwise the electric field created is not constant. The same is true for a changing electric field. The induced magnetic field can be either static or dynamic.

Wston said:
Got several questions. One question is, does changing magnetic field induce current (move electrons) by first creating changing electric field ? I am trying to figure out if there are 2 or 3 steps in the process.

(1)Changing magnetic field -> (2)changing electric field -> (3)moving electrons
or is it
(1)Changing magnetic field -> (2)moving electrons ?

I'm not certain. I've only gone through a basic E&M class, so I don't have the knowledge to answer this. I think the changing magnetic field induces an electric field, which then exerts a force on the charged particles, but like I said I'm not certain.
 
Thanks a lot for the answer, that's an interesting detail I misunderstood about changing fields producing constant one if the rate of change is constant.

Hope the thread will generate more answers regarding this too:

(1)Changing magnetic field -> (2)changing electric field -> (3)moving electrons
or is it
(1)Changing magnetic field -> (2)moving electrons ?

I've been trying to find information online and wasn't able to so far. It seems like a simple detail, but it's not being specified in many online materials I've found.
 
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It may be shown from the equations of electromagnetism, by James Clerk Maxwell in the 1860’s, that the speed of light in the vacuum of free space is related to electric permittivity (ϵ) and magnetic permeability (μ) by the equation: c=1/√( μ ϵ ) . This value is a constant for the vacuum of free space and is independent of the motion of the observer. It was this fact, in part, that led Albert Einstein to Special Relativity.
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