Electric Potential of a Spherical Charge Distribution

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves finding the electric potential of a uniformly charged sphere, with specific attention to the regions inside and outside the sphere. The context includes the application of Gauss's Law and boundary conditions relevant to electric potential.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the derivation of the electric potential inside and outside the sphere, questioning how to determine the constants of integration (C2, C3, C4) based on boundary conditions.
  • Some participants explore the implications of Gauss's Law in establishing boundary conditions, particularly at the edge of the sphere and at infinity.
  • There is a discussion about the behavior of the potential as r approaches infinity and the continuity of potential across boundaries.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering insights into the use of Gauss's Law and the nature of boundary conditions. There is recognition that the potential must be continuous, and some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between constants C2 and C4. However, no consensus has been reached on the exact values of these constants.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of specific boundary conditions for the edge of the sphere, which is contributing to the complexity of the problem. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the implications of potential behavior at infinity.

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Homework Statement


A total charge q is uniformly distributed throughout a sphere of radius a.
Find the electric potential in the region where r1<a and r2>a.
The potential is defined anywhere inside the sphere.

Homework Equations


letting ρ = volume charge density and ε = permittivity constant,
[tex] \nabla^2\phi = \frac{\rho}{\epsilon}[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


for r1 <a,
[tex] \rho = \frac{q}{\frac{4}{3}\pi a^3} = \frac{3q}{4 \pi a^3}[/tex]
there is only an r term, so
[tex] \frac{1}{r^2} \frac{d}{dr} \left( r^2 \frac{d \phi}{dr} \right) =\frac{3q}{4 \pi a^3}\\<br /> \frac{d \phi}{dr} = \frac{q r}{4 \pi a^3} + \frac{C_1}{r^2}\\<br /> \phi = \frac{q r^2}{8 \pi a^3} - \frac{C_1}{r} + C_2\\[/tex]
C1 = 0, so that the potential is defined at the origin (r = 0)
so,
[tex] \phi(r_1) = \frac{q r_1^2}{8 \pi a^3} + C_2[/tex]
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for r2 <a,
[tex] \phi(r_2) = -\frac{C_3}{r_2} + C_4\\[/tex]
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how do I find C2, C3, and C4?
please help :/
 
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What are the boundary conditions? There should be one for 0, one for infinity, and one for the edge of the sphere.
 
thank you for the quick reply

the potential vanishes as r approaches infinity, so I guess that means C4 =0

but there was no boundary condition given for the edge of the sphere. that is why I'm having trouble... :/
 
If you've learned Gauss' Law, you should be able to determine the boundary conditions that way fairly quickly.
 
I think I know Gauss' Law for electric fields, but I still do not see how it can be used to find the boundary conditions.

I know that Gauss's Law states that the total charge enclosed by any closed surface equals the sum of components of the electric field perpendicular to the surface. I doubt it says how to find the charge ON THE SURFACE itself. :/

Please educate me.
 
Draw a Gaussian surface in the shape of a prism with the faces parallel to the surface, at the boundary between the surface. Let the area be A, and the height be h. What is the enclosed charge in the volume as h goes to zero? What does that say about the electric field, and in turn, the derivative of the electric potential?
 
One more thing, the potential doesn't necessarily have to vanish as r approaches infinity. The electric field has to vanish, which means the potential just has to have a zero derivative. If you have C4=0, then you need C2=0 as well.
 
Scratch that last. I was wrong, if C4=0, then C2 can't be zero. There is no way to make the equations work out. What I should have said is that you will get an expression for C2 that depends on C4. That comes from the fact that the potential is always continuous. C4 still doesn't have to equal zero, but then you would increase or decrease C2 by that same amount. It's just convenient and typical to set V=0 at infinity.
 

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