Electrical Breakdown: What Causes Sparks, Lightning and St. Elmo's Fire?

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In summary, the conversation is discussing the mechanism behind phenomena such as sparks, lightning, and St. Elmo's fire. Two explanations are presented, one involving the acceleration of stray electrons and the other involving the ionization of air molecules by a potential difference. The second explanation is favored due to its similarity to a dielectric breakdown in a capacitor. The question of which explanation is correct remains unanswered.
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What's the mechanism behind things like sparks, lightning, St. Elmo's fire, etc.? I've heard two different explanations, both of which seem reasonable:

1) Stray electrons are accelerated by the potential difference created between eg the thundercloud and the ground. These electrons attain enough energy to ionize air molecules, creating more stray electrons which ionize more air molecules, and so on, creating an avalanche of electrons.

2) The potential difference is great enough to ionize the air (without needing say stray electrons), creating free charges which can then be accelerated by the potential difference to create a current.

Which one is right?
 
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I think it is the second one because it sounds similar to a dielectric breakdown in a capacitor.
 
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dEdt said:
What's the mechanism behind things like sparks, lightning, St. Elmo's fire, etc.? I've heard two different explanations, both of which seem reasonable:

1) Stray electrons are accelerated by the potential difference created between eg the thundercloud and the ground. These electrons attain enough energy to ionize air molecules, creating more stray electrons which ionize more air molecules, and so on, creating an avalanche of electrons.

2) The potential difference is great enough to ionize the air (without needing say stray electrons), creating free charges which can then be accelerated by the potential difference to create a current.

Which one is right?

Please read my response in this thread:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=744778

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What is electrical breakdown?

Electrical breakdown is the process by which an insulating material, such as air, suddenly becomes electrically conductive. This results in the formation of sparks or lightning.

What causes electrical breakdown?

Electrical breakdown is caused by a buildup of electrical charge in an insulating material, which eventually reaches a critical level and causes the material to become conductive. This can be triggered by high voltages, strong electric fields, or a combination of both.

What are sparks?

Sparks are sudden, visible electrical discharges that occur when there is a large difference in electrical potential between two objects. They are usually accompanied by a crackling sound and a brief burst of light.

What is lightning?

Lightning is a powerful natural phenomenon that occurs when there is a buildup of electrical charge in the atmosphere. This charge is released in the form of a bright flash of light and a loud thunderclap. Lightning can occur between clouds, within a cloud, or between a cloud and the ground.

What is St. Elmo's fire?

St. Elmo's fire is a type of electrical discharge that occurs during storms at sea. It appears as a blue or violet glow around the masts and rigging of ships, and is caused by the buildup of electrical charge on the ship's surfaces. It is named after St. Erasmus of Formia, the patron saint of sailors.

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