Electrical Power Equation Contradiction

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the apparent contradiction in the electrical power equations, specifically P = I²R and P = V²/R. Participants explore how changes in resistance affect power consumption in electrical components, such as light bulbs, and the implications of these equations in different scenarios.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that P = V²/R suggests that decreasing resistance increases power consumption, leading to a brighter light bulb.
  • Another participant argues that P = I²R implies that if resistance decreases, power also decreases, which seems contradictory.
  • A participant provides a specific example with a circuit at 100 volts and varying resistance, illustrating how power changes with resistance adjustments and questioning the consistency of current in these scenarios.
  • There is acknowledgment from another participant that they understand the points made by others, indicating engagement with the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the implications of the power equations, with no consensus reached on how to reconcile the conflicting interpretations of the equations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential misunderstandings about the relationship between voltage, current, and resistance, particularly in the context of changing resistance and its effect on power. There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made about current in the examples provided.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in electrical engineering, physics students exploring circuit theory, or anyone examining the principles of electrical power and its calculations.

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We know that the rate at which electrical work is done (electrical power) is defined as:

P = I2*R

, or:

P = V2/R

The formula P = V2/R implies that if the resistance of an electrical component (R) (for example, a light bulb) is decreased, the power consumption (P) will increase hence the light bulb will grow brighter. But the formula P = I2*R implies that if R is decreased, P is also decreased and the light bulb will get dimmer.

They can't both be right. What is your answer to this apparent anomaly?

Thank you.
 
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FredericChopin said:
But the formula P = I2*R implies that if R is decreased, P is also decreased and the light bulb will get dimmer.

No, that would imply that we could decrease the resistance without changing the current which doesn't make sense. "I" will increase as the resistance decreases and since the "I" term is squared while the "R" term is not squared, clearly this equation says that if you decrease the resistance, you increase the power.
 
Consider a circuit with a voltage of 100 volts and 10 ohms of resistance. Current through the circuit will be 10 amps and the power will be P = 100 x 10. This equals 1000 watts of power.

Now, if we double the resistance to 20 ohms, what happens?
Well, then it's P = 100 x WAIT!
Do we really have 10 amps still?

If the voltage is 100 volts, and the resistance is now 20 ohms, that means that current is at 5 amps.
So, P = 25 x 20, or 500 watts. Doubling the resistance halved the power!

Or if we drop resistance to 5 ohms, then P = 400 x 5, or 2,000 watts. Halving the resistance doubled the power!
 
Thank you very much phinds and Drakkith (I understand!) :smile:
 

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