Electrical Power Loss Equations Confusion

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the equations used to calculate electrical power loss, specifically examining the relationship between current (I), resistance (R), and voltage (V). Participants explore different formulations of power loss and their implications, including the effects of transformers on power loss.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question why the equation for power loss is expressed as Power Loss = I^2*R instead of Power Loss = V*I, raising concerns about the representation of voltage.
  • Others clarify that V*I or V^2/R can be used to represent power, emphasizing the need to understand how to apply these equations correctly in different contexts.
  • There is a reiteration that power is not represented as V*R, but rather as either V^2/R or V*I, with a focus on the correct application of Ohm's Law.
  • One participant acknowledges a previous misunderstanding and expresses clarity on the topic after further discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate equations for calculating power loss, with no consensus reached on the best formulation. Some participants agree on the validity of multiple equations depending on the context, while others remain confused about the implications of voltage changes on power loss.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential misunderstandings regarding the application of Ohm's Law and the conditions under which different power loss equations are valid. There are unresolved questions about the impact of voltage increases on power loss in transformers.

Kevin Shen
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Why is the equation Power Loss = I^2*R rather than Power Loss = V*I?
What I mean is why use I/R to represent V?
Also if Power Loss is equivalent to V*R, doesn't step up transformers which creating higher voltage also cause Power Loss to increase which contradicts to textbooks stating that power loss decreases if voltage rises given that power supply is same?
 
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You could use V*I or V^2/R to represent power (not V*R). But you need to understand how to use it. Look at a resistor. If the resistor has 50 ohms, and there is 10 volts across it, how do you find the power dissipated in the resistor? You can find the current in the resistor, then multiply current x voltage (across the resistor). If you look at Ohm's Law [V = I*R, not I/R], then you can substitute one of these values for it's equivalent combination of the other 2.
 
Kevin Shen said:
Why is the equation Power Loss = I^2*R rather than Power Loss = V*R?What I mean is why use I/R to represent V?
Power isn't V*R it is either V2/R or V*I. And V isn't I/R, it is I*R.

But in either case, as said above you can use different equations for different problems depending on what you need.
 
russ_watters said:
Power isn't V*R it is either V2/R or V*I. And V isn't I/R, it is I*R.

But in either case, as said above you can use different equations for different problems depending on what you need.
Yeah I realized I made the error and I get it now :)
 
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