Electricity: series and parallel circuit

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of current and voltage in series and parallel circuits, specifically focusing on measurements taken during an experiment involving light bulbs. The original poster questions the consistency of current readings in a series circuit and voltage readings in a parallel circuit, expressing confusion over the varying results obtained.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the implications of measurement errors, questioning the setup of the ammeter and the nature of the voltage source used. There is a focus on understanding why the current readings varied and whether the internal resistance of the measuring devices could affect the results.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the correct connection of the ammeter and suggested checking the power source. The conversation reflects an ongoing exploration of the experimental setup and the potential for measurement errors, with no explicit consensus reached on the cause of the discrepancies in the readings.

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Participants note the importance of connecting the ammeter in series rather than parallel, and there are mentions of possible bad connections and reversed leads affecting voltage measurements. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the type of voltage source used, indicating a lack of clarity in the experimental conditions.

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I have a question about series and parallel circuits
We made a simple series circuit using three light bulbs
when we measured the current with the ammeter at each end of the light bulb, they were 30mA at the source, then it began to change to 40,40,60,60,1.6, and 2.3 Do you think this result is right? aren't they all supposed to stay the same??
also, we made a simple parallel circuit using three light bulbs
we measured the voltage at each end of the light bulbs to find the potential difference. Here, too aren't the numbers supposed to stay the same throughtout the whole circuit? My results were 0, 0, 2, -2(?), 2.1, and 2.2
 
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You intuition is correct, so there must have been some problem with the meter or the experiment. The current in a series circuit is the same, and the voltage across parallel elements is the same.

Take a look back at how the measurements were made, and look for sources of error. For example, remember that a voltmeter in current measurement mode has an internal resistance which is not always negligible. When you measure currents in the mA range, the resistance can be many Ohms.

And on the voltage measurements, it looks to be a combination of bad connections (0V) where something wasn't making good contact, and one case of reversed leads (-2V).
 
berkeman said:
You intuition is correct, so there must have been some problem with the meter or the experiment. The current in a series circuit is the same, and the voltage across parallel elements is the same.

Take a look back at how the measurements were made, and look for sources of error. For example, remember that a voltmeter in current measurement mode has an internal resistance which is not always negligible. When you measure currents in the mA range, the resistance can be many Ohms.

And on the voltage measurements, it looks to be a combination of bad connections (0V) where something wasn't making good contact, and one case of reversed leads (-2V).

Then we probably did the experiment wrong or somethin eh?
but about the 'internal resistance that's not negligible', does this mean the current can fluctuate even in series circuit?? but even with that, it wouldn't fluctuate this much right...? - -;; ------> 30, 40,40,60,60,1.6, and 2.3mA
 
we measured the current with the ammeter at each end of the light bulb
Did you connect the ammeter in series or in parallel ? The former is the right arrangement.
Also what sort of a voltage source are you using ?
 
Did something smoke ?
:biggrin:
 
arunbg said:
Did you connect the ammeter in series or in parallel ? The former is the right arrangement.
Also what sort of a voltage source are you using ?

well we connected the ammeter parallel to the series circuit
and I'm not sure what the name of our voltage source is called but it was just some kind of a power source that u could turn on and off...:confused:
 
vanesch said:
Did something smoke ?
:biggrin:

:rolleyes: uhhh no nothing smoked. . .
 
Ammeters are supposed to be connected in series along with the other circuit elements so that they can read of the entire series current.
Also, have you tried changing the power source to check ? You could use a simple dry cell for the experiment.
 
jnimagine said:
Then we probably did the experiment wrong or somethin eh?
but about the 'internal resistance that's not negligible', does this mean the current can fluctuate even in series circuit?? but even with that, it wouldn't fluctuate this much right...? - -;; ------> 30, 40,40,60,60,1.6, and 2.3mA

The series resistance of an ammeter (or voltmeter in current measurement mode) can alter the overall current in the circuit, compared to when the meter is not in the circuit. But the current will not fluctuate depending on where the ammeter is placed in a series circuit. Take the example where a series circuit consists of three 1 Ohm resistors, and the series resistance of the meter is 1 Ohm also. If the meter is not in the circuit and you connect up a 3V power supply (I'm just using round numbers here for illustration), then you get 1A of series current through the three resistors. But if you break the connection between either pair of resistors and insert the ammeter, now the total resistance of the series circuit is 4 Ohms, and you get less than the 1A of series current. The insertion of the meter has altered the current in the circuit, but it doesn't matter where in the circuit you insert that extra 1 Ohm of resistance, you will still get the same (altered) current.

Make sense?
 

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