Electromagnetic Waves: Energy & Amplitude Connection

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relationship between the energy of electromagnetic (EM) waves, their frequency, amplitude, and photon density. Participants explore how these factors interrelate, particularly in the context of energy density and power of EM radiation.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the energy of a single photon is dependent on its frequency, while the power of incident EM radiation is influenced by both the energy of each photon and their density, which is represented by the amplitude of the wave.
  • There is a suggestion that the energy associated with the entire wave is related to the density of photons, which is linked to the amplitude of the incident wave.
  • One participant emphasizes that energy can only be defined once a specific volume of the wave is considered, noting that a wave does not have fixed dimensions like a particle.
  • Another participant questions the factors that influence the density of incident radiation, indicating a desire to explore further aspects of the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of agreement on the relationship between amplitude, photon density, and energy, but there is no consensus on the implications of these relationships or the factors affecting photon density.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on assumptions about definitions and the context of energy density in waves, which remain unresolved. The discussion does not clarify how these factors interact in all scenarios.

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we know that the energy of electromegnatic waves depends upon there frequency (wave length as well) but does the amplitude of the waves have anything to do with the energy of the em waves?
 
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If I'm correct, then only the energy of one single photon depends on frequency. However, the power of incident EM radiation depends on both energy of each photon and their density. The density of the photons is represented by the amplitude of the EM wave.
 
Gerenuk said:
If I'm correct, then only the energy of one single photon depends on frequency. However, the power of incident EM radiation depends on both energy of each photon and their density. The density of the photons is represented by the amplitude of the EM wave.

so indirectly the energy depends upon the amplitude of the incident wave ?
 
Actually rather directly. But note that an EM wave has rather an energy density. The energy you can only define once you've specified how much volume of the wave you want to consider. A wave is not a particle with fixed dimensions!
 
Gerenuk said:
Actually rather directly. But note that an EM wave has rather an energy density. The energy you can only define once you've specified how much volume of the wave you want to consider. A wave is not a particle with fixed dimensions!

so the energy assosiated with a single photon depends upon the frequency but the energy of the entire wave is also related to the density of the photons the density of the photons is just as much as the amplitude of the incident wave right ??
 
FizixFreak said:
so the energy assosiated with a single photon depends upon the frequency but the energy of the entire wave is also related to the density of the photons the density of the photons is just as much as the amplitude of the incident wave right ??

Yes - at least that was what I had in mind. Feel free to cross-check with the other thread in this forum :)
 
here is another one
the density of incident radiation depends on which factors ?
 

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