Electromagntic fields in a high voltage line

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around simulating electromagnetic fields in high voltage transmission lines. Participants are seeking code or software recommendations for this simulation, particularly in programming languages such as MATLAB, C++, FORTRAN, and MAPPLE. The scope includes both theoretical and experimental aspects of electromagnetic field measurement and simulation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests help in finding code or software for simulating electromagnetic fields in high voltage transmission lines.
  • Another participant suggests that standard simulation software like SPICE or Excel could be used if the transmission lines follow standard equations.
  • A participant explains that to calculate properties of transmission lines, knowledge of mutual capacitance and inductance is necessary, mentioning the characteristic impedance and propagation velocity.
  • One participant shares their research context, indicating they are working on measuring electrostatic potential and fields in high voltage lines and are looking for simulation code to compare theoretical and experimental values.
  • Suggestions for software like Ansoft or Comsol are made, but cost concerns are raised by another participant.
  • There is a query about whether the original poster wants to write their own code or use existing code, with a mention of EMTP software as a potential resource.
  • A participant offers access to an eBook on electromagnetic modeling that could assist in writing the required codes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying preferences for simulation methods and software, with no consensus on a specific code or approach. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best solution for simulating electromagnetic fields in high voltage lines.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific details on the non-standard transmission line situations mentioned, as well as the potential need for further clarification on the requirements for the simulation code.

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Hello, i actually more natural with spanish, so sorry if any words are bad writed. I come for help, I am trying to simulate electromagnetic fields in high voltage transsmision lines, i need a code that simulate it. If any of you have a code, or know of a program that do the job i will apreciate if you can post a link or tell me of a program that do the simulation. But it will be better if the code is in MAPPLE, C++, FORTRAN, MATLAB or any other programing language you know of.
 
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Radinax said:
Hello, i actually more natural with spanish, so sorry if any words are bad writed. I come for help, I am trying to simulate electromagnetic fields in high voltage transsmision lines, i need a code that simulate it. If any of you have a code, or know of a program that do the job i will apreciate if you can post a link or tell me of a program that do the simulation. But it will be better if the code is in MAPPLE, C++, FORTRAN, MATLAB or any other programing language you know of.

Welcome to the PF. Don't worry about the language issues -- your writings are fine.

If you are simulating standard transmission lines with the standard TL equations, then any simple simulation software package will work, including SPICE and Excel. Do you have some non-standard TL situation that you need to simulate?
 
If you want to calculate the properties of the t-line, like propagation velocity or ratio of voltage to cuurent in an impedance-matched line, you only need to know the mutual capacitance per unit length C or inductance per unit length L. This is because the characteristic impedance is Z=sqrt(L/C), and v =~c = 1/sqrt(LC) = 1/sqrt(u0e0) where u0 and e0 are the permeability and permittivity of free space. You could use a ladder of series L's and shunt C's, and use the telegraphers equations if you want a lumped circuit model.

One complication is that the HV transmission lines are (nearly always) 3 phase.

As for the potential distribution between two lines, you could take the potential for the two lines of equal and opposite potential in cylindrical coordinates and add them vectorially.
Bob S
 
Thanks, well I am doing an investigation, actually working with a professor at my University to publish an article, we are working on the "Meausure of the electrostatic potential, electric field and magnetic field in high voltage line" We want to compare the real values (we are going to have to meausure to get teoric values) with experimental ones using a simulator, and he asked me to look for a code that can simulate the magnetic field in high voltage line, preferible in MATLAB, C++, FORTRAN, MAPPLE. Well that is it, hope you can help a bit more please, this going to have a huge influence in my career.
 
How about Ansoft or Comsol?
 
Weeeell they are actually in dollars that i don't have XD!
Thats why I am asking for a code (or plot) in matlab, c++ to simulate that. In a lot of articles i have investigated and most of them uses MATLAB or mathematicas with c++, so if any of you know of a way that's a bit economic??
 
Do you want to write code? Or use some written codes?
Do you know EMTP or similar software? EMTP is code base software.


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m.s.j said:
Do you want to write code? Or use some written codes?
Do you know EMTP or similar software? EMTP is code base software.


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Thanks for replying!
I want to use some written codes (or plots) in the programing language i mentionted above, related to the simulation of magnetic and electric fields in high voltage transsmision lines, so if you know any information related to this you can post it.

Thanks again!
 
I don't have any written code;but I access to one useful eBook (ELECTROMAGNETIC MODELING BY FINITE ELEMENT METHODS) which may be helped you for writing of your required codes. I can send it to you, if you want please inform your email address.
 
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m.s.j said:
I don't have any written code;but I access to one useful eBook (ELECTROMAGNETIC MODELING BY FINITE ELEMENT METHODS) which may be helped you for writing of your required codes. I can send it to you, if you want please inform your email address.

Thanks man!
My email address is adrberia@hotmail.com
 

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