Electrostatic force between more than 2 charges

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hi
i don't know if this has been posted or not but i am sort fo stuck on this one

What is the force F_vec on the 1 nC charge at the bottom? View Figure
Write your answer as two vector components, separated by a comma. Express each component numerically, in Newtons, to three significant figures.

the figure looks like this
knight_Figure_25_46.jpg


attempt to this problem:

i found out the forces individually and added them together .. but it didnt work

x-component:
6nC = 0
2nC = 5.09 x 10[tex]^{-5}[/tex] each

y-component:
6nC = 2.16 x 10[tex]^{-5}[/tex]
2nc = 5.09 x 10[tex]^{-5}[/tex] each

when i add them: 1.02 x 10 [tex]^{-5}[/tex] [tex]\hat{x}[/tex] , 7.76 x 10[tex]^{-5}[/tex] [tex]\hat{y}[/tex]

but that was wrong.. i also tried the x-comp to be 0 .. but that was wrong too

thanx in advance for the help
 
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How does the x-component of the force exerted by one 2 nC charge compare to that of the other?
 
Doc Al said:
How does the x-component of the force exerted by one 2 nC charge compare to that of the other?

they are opposite of each other .. which means there is no net x- component .. but that's not the right answer tho..
 
moonlight13 said:
hi
i don't know if this has been posted or not but i am sort fo stuck on this one

What is the force F_vec on the 1 nC charge at the bottom? View Figure
Write your answer as two vector components, separated by a comma. Express each component numerically, in Newtons, to three significant figures.

the figure looks like this View attachment 12308

attempt to this problem:

i found out the forces individually and added them together .. but it didnt work

x-component:
6nC = 0
2nC = 5.09 x 10[tex]^{-5}[/tex] each

y-component:
6nC = 2.16 x 10[tex]^{-5}[/tex]
2nc = 5.09 x 10[tex]^{-5}[/tex] each

when i add them: 1.02 x 10 [tex]^{-5}[/tex] [tex]\hat{x}[/tex] , 7.76 x 10[tex]^{-5}[/tex] [tex]\hat{y}[/tex]

but that was wrong.. i also tried the x-comp to be 0 .. but that was wrong too

thanx in advance for the help

I see 2 things you might do differently to help.
Make sure you're doing vectors (right is +, up is +). Keep the vector notation throughout.
Check your use of scientific notation. If you're unsure, have your calculator switch it to regular decimal.
 
TVP45 said:
I see 2 things you might do differently to help.
Make sure you're doing vectors (right is +, up is +). Keep the vector notation throughout.
Check your use of scientific notation. If you're unsure, have your calculator switch it to regular decimal.

i tried a similar question, with 1 + and 1 - 2nC charge .. and that worked out
but somehow i can't get this working ..

i am not too sure if the y - component it right as well or not .. even tho it seems right
 
moonlight13 said:
they are opposite of each other .. which means there is no net x- component .. but that's not the right answer tho..
Show how you calculated the vertical components of the forces from the 2 nC charges.
 
moonlight13 said:
y-component:
6nC = 2.16 x 10[tex]^{-5}[/tex]
2nc = 5.09 x 10[tex]^{-5}[/tex] each
What are the directions (signs) of these components?
 
Doc Al said:
Show how you calculated the vertical components of the forces from the 2 nC charges.

y-comp = Esin[tex]\vartheta[/tex]
r= 5x10^-2
E = Kq[tex]_{1}[/tex]q[tex]_{2}[/tex] / r[tex]^{2}[/tex]
= (9.0x10^9)(2x10^-9)(1x10^-9)/ ( 2.5x10^-3)
E= 7.2x10^-6

y-comp = E sin(45) = 5.09x10^-6
 
Doc Al said:
Show how you calculated the vertical components of the forces from the 2 nC charges.

Doc Al said:
What are the directions (signs) of these components?

6nC = +y, no x
2nC = +y, +x (on the right)
2nC = +y, -x (on the left)

and that's why my understand was that the x components would cancel out .. but i am not sure what's going on
 
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moonlight13 said:
6nC = +y, no x
2nC = +y, +x (on the right)
2nC = +y, -x (on the left)
Realize that the 2 nC charges are positive and the 6 nC charge is negative. Which way do their forces on the + 1 nC charge act?
 
  • #11
so the 2 +y .. should be -y ..?
 
  • #12
i did the calc again and i get

x = 0
y = 1.14x10^-5 ..

doe sthat seem right?
 
  • #13
moonlight13 said:
so the 2 +y .. should be -y ..?
Correct. Since the charges repel, the y component of force is downward and thus negative.
 
  • #14
thank you ., thank you ... thank you..
 
  • #15
moonlight13 said:
y-comp = Esin[tex]\vartheta[/tex]
r= 5x10^-2
E = Kq[tex]_{1}[/tex]q[tex]_{2}[/tex] / r[tex]^{2}[/tex]
= (9.0x10^9)(2x10^-9)(1x10^-9)/ ( 2.5x10^-3)
E= 7.2x10^-6

y-comp = E sin(45) = 5.09x10^-6
What's the distance between the charges?
 
  • #16
moonlight13 said:
i did the calc again and i get

x = 0
y = 1.14x10^-5 ..

doe sthat seem right?

what you said abt the charges repelling .. this answer is right ..

thank you so much once again
 
  • #17
moonlight13 said:
what you said abt the charges repelling .. this answer is right ..

thank you so much once again
You are most welcome.

Doc Al said:
What's the distance between the charges?
Never mind. You had written the distance squared. :smile:
 

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