EM Radiation oscillating charged mass

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The discussion revolves around calculating the intensity of electromagnetic radiation from a charged mass attached to a spring, oscillating below its equilibrium position. Participants explore the use of Larmor's formula and the Poynting vector to derive the intensity as a function of distance from the charge. A geometric approach is suggested to visualize the problem, including drawing the setup and establishing relationships between angles and distances. The conversation highlights the need to connect differential power to area and solid angles for accurate calculations. Overall, the focus is on deriving the correct expressions to determine radiation intensity effectively.
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Homework Statement



A particle of mass m and charge q is attached to a spring with force constant k, hanging from the ceiling. Its equilibrium position is a distance h above the floor. It is pulled down a distance d below equilibrium and released, at time t = 0;

Under the usual assumptions (d << lambda << h) calculate the intensity of the radiation hitting the floor as a function of the distance R from the point directly below q.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I see that this is a harmonic oscillator that could be described by x(t) = d cos(wt)
and a = -w*w*dcos(wt)

I would like to use Larmor's formula: P = u_0 q^2 a^2 / ( 6 pi m c) but I believe that I may need to revert back the to Poynting vector because we are only trying to find intensity [W/area] so: S = u_0 q^2 a^2 / ( 32 pi m c).

I think I'm having a hard time determining how to draw the picture to visualize this situation. How do I handle finding the intensity on the floor? I see that the distance from the mass to the floor is (R^2 + (h+delta)^2)^1/2.

Does anyone have any tips on how to get started with this? Do I need to rewrite the electric and magnetic fields and recalculate the Poynting vector from scratch (re-derive the electric dipole equations essentially?)
 
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Draw the charge at a height h above a plane. Draw a ring of radius R and thickness dR in said plane centered on the charge. Draw the angles theta and theta + d(theta) that the ring makes.

From http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/Class/phy319/phy319/node146.html

We find the differential power, dP, into a solid angle d(omega) goes as:

dP/d(omega) is proportional to a^2*sin^2(theta) eq. 18.35

d(omega) = sin(theta)*d(theta)*d(phi) See solid angle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_angle

Convince your self that the power that goes through the ring is proportional to:

a^2*sin^3(theta)*d(theta)

There is a geometric relationship between dR and d(theta) that you should be able to find from your drawing.

You know dP/d(omega) but you want dP/dA where dA is the area of the ring.

But dP/dA = dP/d(omega)*d(omega)/dA

All you need is the relationship between d(omega) and dA.

Corrections welcome, hope this helps!
 
Hello Spinnor,

Thanks for your excellent response, I've almost figured it out.

From the picture I see that: dR2 = 2(h2 + R2) + dR2 + 2RdR - 2 sqrt(h2 +R2) sqrt( h2 + (R+dR)2) cos( d(theta) )

I decided that this was a mess but we could probably simplify it to where (R+dR)2 ~= R2 so I get: dR = (h2 + R2) d(theta).

Then using the solid angle d(omega) = sin(theta) d(theta) d(phi) I re-arrange and plug it in.

d(omega) = sin(theta) dR d(phi) / sqrt(h2 + R2)

Now there is where I've struggled. I can't seem to translate that into a useful d(omega)/dA expression. Is my approximation for dR correct? Or am I missing something else?
 
I think we want dA = R*d(phi)*dR

d(omega)/dA =[sin(theta)*d(theta)*d(phi)]/ R*d(phi)*dR

dR is related to d(theta)

[h^2+R^2]*d(theta)/h = dR , so

d(omega)/dA = [sin(theta)*d(theta)]/R*dR

=[h*sin(theta)*d(theta)]/R*[h^2+R^2]*d(theta)

=[h*sin(theta)]/(R*[h^2+R^2])

So it looks like dP/dA goes as

a^2*sin^2(theta)*d(omega)/dA

We want to get sin(theta) in terms of R. Let straight down be theta = 0, then R/[h^2+R^2]^.5 = sin(theta)

This was pretty sloppy. Better next time, hope it helps.
 
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