EMF expression in electrical generator

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the discrepancies in the induced EMF expressions for electrical generators. Two methods yield different results: using the equation e = Bvl results in an RMS value of E = 2K_{f}fφ, while using e = dΛ/dt gives E = πK_{f}fφ. The calculations involve parameters such as polar pairs (p), radius (r), frequency (ƒ), and form factor (Kf). The user seeks clarification on the source of the error in these calculations.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of electromagnetic induction principles
  • Familiarity with sinusoidal magnetic fields
  • Knowledge of electrical generator design and operation
  • Proficiency in calculus, particularly differentiation
NEXT STEPS
  • Review the derivation of EMF in electrical generators using Faraday's Law
  • Study the relationship between magnetic flux and induced EMF in AC circuits
  • Explore the implications of form factor (Kf) on EMF calculations
  • Investigate the differences between RMS and average values in sinusoidal waveforms
USEFUL FOR

Electrical engineers, physics students, and professionals involved in the design and analysis of electrical generators will benefit from this discussion.

Galfer
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
Hi all!

I'm studying electrical generators, and while I was trying to come up to the expression of EMF induced in a conductor I got two different results following two different ways, and I can't find the error.

With sinusoidal B, with e=bvl I get an RMS value E=2K_{f}f\phi, while with e=\frac{d\Lambda}{dt} I get E=\pi K_{f}f\phi

Following the calculations; can you please tell me where the error is?

Case 1:

p = polar pairs
r = radius
ƒ = frequency
Kf = form factor

\tau=\frac{\pi r}{p}
v=2f\tau
E=K_{f}B_{m}lv=K_{f}\frac{\phi}{\tau l}l2f \tau=2K_{f}f\phi

Case 2:

e=\frac{d\Lambda}{dt}=\frac{1}{2}\frac{d\phi}{dt}
E_{M}=\sqrt{2}E=\frac{1}{2}\phi_{M}\omega=\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{2}K_{f}\phi2\pi f=\pi f\sqrt{2}K_{f}\phi
E=\pi K_{f}f\phi

I thought it could be a \frac{2}{\pi} due to a mean value, but the flux is the same in both the expressions...
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
Just adding some notation and clarifications about my calculations:

v = conductor\; velocity
\tau = polar\; pitch
l=rotor\; and\; conductor\; length
\Lambda=magnetic\; flux\; of\; B\; linked\; with\; the\; coils
\phi = polar\; magnetic\; flux
B_{m} = mean\; value\; of\; B

B_{m}=\frac{\phi}{\tau l}

And the passage from Λ to 0.5Φ:

e=\frac{d\Lambda}{dt}=\frac{1}{2}\frac{d\phi}{dt}

is because with one conductor I've half a coil.

I can't solve it, if you've any ideas it'd be great.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
4K
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
Replies
8
Views
1K
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 20 ·
Replies
20
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K