EMF expression in electrical generator

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The discussion revolves around the discrepancies in the induced EMF expressions for electrical generators, specifically between two methods of calculation. The first method yields an RMS value of E=2K_{f}f\phi, while the second method results in E=\pi K_{f}f\phi. The calculations involve parameters like polar pairs, radius, frequency, and form factor, with a focus on the relationship between magnetic flux and induced EMF. The author suspects an error related to the mean value of the flux but notes that the flux remains consistent across both expressions. Assistance is sought to identify the source of the discrepancy in the calculations.
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Hi all!

I'm studying electrical generators, and while I was trying to come up to the expression of EMF induced in a conductor I got two different results following two different ways, and I can't find the error.

With sinusoidal B, with e=bvl I get an RMS value E=2K_{f}f\phi, while with e=\frac{d\Lambda}{dt} I get E=\pi K_{f}f\phi

Following the calculations; can you please tell me where the error is?

Case 1:

p = polar pairs
r = radius
ƒ = frequency
Kf = form factor

\tau=\frac{\pi r}{p}
v=2f\tau
E=K_{f}B_{m}lv=K_{f}\frac{\phi}{\tau l}l2f \tau=2K_{f}f\phi

Case 2:

e=\frac{d\Lambda}{dt}=\frac{1}{2}\frac{d\phi}{dt}
E_{M}=\sqrt{2}E=\frac{1}{2}\phi_{M}\omega=\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{2}K_{f}\phi2\pi f=\pi f\sqrt{2}K_{f}\phi
E=\pi K_{f}f\phi

I thought it could be a \frac{2}{\pi} due to a mean value, but the flux is the same in both the expressions...
 
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Just adding some notation and clarifications about my calculations:

v = conductor\; velocity
\tau = polar\; pitch
l=rotor\; and\; conductor\; length
\Lambda=magnetic\; flux\; of\; B\; linked\; with\; the\; coils
\phi = polar\; magnetic\; flux
B_{m} = mean\; value\; of\; B

B_{m}=\frac{\phi}{\tau l}

And the passage from Λ to 0.5Φ:

e=\frac{d\Lambda}{dt}=\frac{1}{2}\frac{d\phi}{dt}

is because with one conductor I've half a coil.

I can't solve it, if you've any ideas it'd be great.
 
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