Energy of 3D free electron gas.

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The discussion centers on the energy of a three-dimensional free electron gas, specifically addressing integrals related to energy density calculations and the implications of the Pauli exclusion principle in the context of Fermi energy. Participants explore theoretical aspects from solid state physics, particularly referencing the Sommerfeld theory of metals.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the integral calculation for the energy density of a 3D electron gas, specifically how the integration leads to a specific result involving Fermi momentum.
  • Another participant suggests that the Pauli principle is neglected in the model, indicating that multiple particles can occupy the same energy level if they have different quantum numbers, thus approximating a homogeneous gas of non-interacting electrons.
  • A different participant points out that the integration factor should be in spherical coordinates, noting the transformation from d^3k to a form that incorporates the kinetic energy dependence on the magnitude of k.
  • Further discussion arises about the implications of the Pauli principle and whether electrons can occupy the Fermi energy level at absolute zero temperature, with some expressing confusion about the interpretation of Fermi energy as a limit.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the treatment of the Pauli exclusion principle and the assumptions made in the model. There is no consensus on the implications of these assumptions for the energy levels of electrons in the gas.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in the model, particularly regarding the neglect of interactions between electrons and the assumption of an infinite number of available states. The discussion also highlights the complexity of real materials compared to the simplified model being analyzed.

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Hi, I have two questions,

1. I am reading the book 'Solid State Physics', 1976, by Aschcroft and Mermin. I am reading chapter II about 'The Sommerfeld Theory of Metals'. (I hope anyone here have the same book..)

I found it hard to figure out one integral on the equation (2.30) on calculation of the 3D electron gas energy density 'E/V' when putting limit V -> infinity.

My question is why the integration (1/(4*Pi^3)) * integral(dk * (h_bar^2*k^2)/(2*m)) is equal to (1/Pi^2) * (h_bar^2*k_Fermi^5)/(10*m) ? I have tried it but I know that integration of k^2 is (1/3)*k^3, so I don't get it on how to get the result...

Sorry that I do not know LaTex..

2. I read on wikipedia. They calculate the total energy by doing integration of Fermi energy over N, which is the total number of electron. My question is, why is it like that? As far as know, not all electrons sit in the same energy level equal to Energy Fermi due to Pauli principle. So it does not make sense to me while the result is correct the the total energy is equal to 3/5 of Energy Fermi times the number of electron. Can anybody here explain it? Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_energy#The_three-dimensional_case

Many Thanks in advance.
 
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Skipping 1 because I don't have the book...

2: The Pauli principle is neglected. Note that you can have several particles with the same energy if they have different quantum numbers; you're basically approximating/assuming there's an infinite number of available states. More generally you're basically assuming a homogeneous gas of non-interacting electrons.

In a real situation, you have the Pauli principle, electrons interact, and materials are not homogeneous. This is basically the simplest, crudest model you could have. But it does give meaningful results for electrons in a metal crystal. (OTOH this kind of model fails pretty badly - as one would expect - for a molecule or single atom, where the system is not at all homogenous and the number of states is quite small)
 
On 1, I believe the integration factor should be d^3k, since you are looking at a 3 dimensional electron gas. Then you go to spherical coordinates, since the kinetic energy depends only on the magnitude of k, and use the transformation d^3k = 4*pi*k^2*dk.
 
@kanato
Thanks .. you are right .. it is clear for me now. I was puzzled because of it for two days until now. xD

@alxm
So the Pauli principle is neglected by saying that we are assuming there are infinite number of states that can be occupied by electrons? Is it because of the distance between the allowed k values is too small?

So, this means that it is allowed for an electron to have energy equal to energy Fermi when T = 0 ? I always thought that it is the limit, so electrons' energy are always smaller than Fermi Energy...
 

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