Energy=work, but how does work = electric potential energy?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between work and electric potential energy, specifically how electric potential energy (U) expressed as Vq relates to work (W=Fd). Participants explore connections between these concepts and seek clarification through examples.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how electric potential energy (U) relates to work, seeking a clear example to illustrate the connection.
  • Another participant suggests considering gravitational potential energy as a parallel to understand electric potential energy better.
  • There is a proposal that gravitational potential energy and electric potential energy are analogous, differing only in their sources (mass versus charge).
  • A participant expresses a realization that both work and energy share the same SI unit (Joules), which can be derived from their respective formulas (W=Fd and U=Vq).
  • One participant reflects on their learning process, indicating that understanding electric potential energy has helped clarify their grasp of related concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to have differing levels of understanding regarding the relationship between work and electric potential energy, with some expressing clarity while others remain uncertain. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the best way to relate these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the connections between the SI units of work and energy, as well as the conceptual parallels between gravitational and electric potential energy. There are unresolved aspects regarding the clarity of these relationships.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or individuals seeking to understand the relationship between work and electric potential energy, particularly those who are familiar with gravitational potential energy and looking to draw parallels between these concepts.

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yes, energy = work, but how does electric potential energy (U) = Vq (electric potential and charge) relate to work (W=Fd), specifically. An example would be most helpful!
 
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Back up a bit. Do you also have a problem relating work to gravitatonal potential energy, which I presume, you've encountered already?

Zz.
 
So gravitation potential energy is the same as electrical potential except it's a different source (the field versus the mass of the earth)? I think i understand this, I guess a better question would be how to relate the SI units of work and energy. I know that they are related, but how (Volts * q) which equals electric potential energy relates to Work (Fd) is beyond me. any ideas?
 
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geez i think i figured it out. the SI unit of energy is Joules. Joules also equals Newton*meters. Work is force*distance, which is also Newton*meters, so all that makes sense. Then electric potential energy (U)=V*q or electric potential and charge. (sorry I got it wrong above). well, volts also equals J/C. so when you cancel the coulombs with the charge in the equation you're left with just Joules! that's how regular old energy relates to electric potential energy, then how to relate energy to work. well, work is Fd and energy is Newton meters (or force* distance). so that's it right? this may have been stupid and really pointless, sorry for that...but I did learn here (if all this is even right?)! haha thanks for your help connecting ideas!
 
It is not stupid and pointless. And this illustrate my philosophy in teaching, in which you learn new things on top of things you already know. That's why I wanted to ask you if you are already OK with gravitational potential energy, because if you are, then the electrostatic potential energy is no different other than mass being replaced by charge.

The BEST learning method is when, with some help, you discover for yourself the solution to the problem you face. I merely tried to guide you so that you can do this for yourself. Next time, when you encounter a problem, you will learn this technique of thinking where you try to see if there have been something similar that you've encountered before that can guide you to tackle the new problem.

Zz.
 

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