Engaging and Disengaging Magnetism

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of magnetizing and demagnetizing two slabs of thick glass using magnetic strips, with a focus on whether this can be achieved through a mechanism that allows for easy separation and reattachment of the slabs. The scope includes theoretical considerations and practical applications of electromagnetism.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the possibility of using magnetic strips on glass slabs to hold them together and allow for separation through demagnetization.
  • Another participant suggests that electromagnets could be a viable solution and questions whether they can be disengaged with a button.
  • A later reply discusses the concept of using a metal alloy with a Curie temperature to achieve demagnetization, noting that heating the alloy could temporarily reduce its magnetic attraction.
  • Concerns are raised about the practicality of the Curie temperature approach, particularly regarding the thermal limits of glass.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying ideas about the methods of achieving magnetization and demagnetization, with no consensus on the best approach or its feasibility. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the practical implementation of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the properties of materials used, such as the Curie temperature of magnetic materials and the thermal stability of glass. The discussion does not resolve the technical challenges involved in creating a working model.

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Hi,

I need a little help trying to determine the possibility of magnetizing and demagnetizing an object. My question is as follows:

Is it possible to line two different slabs of thick glass with magnetic strips that can be magnetized to one another for the purpose of holding them together where they do not separate without great opposing force but that can also be demagnetized for the purpose of pulling the two slabs apart?

If there is a way to demagnetize these slabs to allow them to be separated, by what process is this achieved? Is it a reaction that could be activated and deactivated by a button?
 
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Sjuan said:
Hi,

I need a little help trying to determine the possibility of magnetizing and demagnetizing an object. My question is as follows:

Is it possible to line two different slabs of thick glass with magnetic strips that can be magnetized to one another for the purpose of holding them together where they do not separate without great opposing force but that can also be demagnetized for the purpose of pulling the two slabs apart?

If there is a way to demagnetize these slabs to allow them to be separated, by what process is this achieved? Is it a reaction that could be activated and deactivated by a button?

Welcome to the PF.

Electomagnets would work. Is this for a school project?
 
No, actually this is my own personal curiosity :smile: so, in using electromagnets, is it indeed possible for them to be disengaged by using a button? Are electromagnets strong enough to hold two thick slabs of glass together without them separating? Would they separate if the slabs were to be dropped or would they stay in place?
 
Sjuan said:
If there is a way to demagnetize these slabs to allow them to be separated, by what process is this achieved? Is it a reaction that could be activated and deactivated by a button?
If you were a sci-fi writer, you might be able to make use of a metal's Curie temperature. You have magnets on one slab, and a metal alloy on the other. Normally they attract. But if you were to heat the alloy above its Curie temperature, it loses almost all of its magnetic attraction until it cools. Unfortunately, the Curie temps of most magnetic materials are probably higher than most glasses can withstand, so you may need to invent a new material. As for the push button, I had in mind electrically heating the metal strip by passing current through it ...

This could be made to work, at least in theory.
 

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